Someone want to explain to me just how Kostya Tszyu would've beaten DLH?

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  1. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've never heard of developing a good chin just by moving to a different weight class... I guess there's hope for Corey Spinks after all.
     
  2. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Seeing what Phillips did to him, I'd say a knockout.
     
  3. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fact that KT punched extremely hard is not new information to me, but to measure EXACTLY how hard he hit is highly debatable. And even then DLH still has too good of a chin. DLH would be able to handle KT's power better than KT could handle DLH's, IMJ.
     
  4. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    With a straight right.
     
  5. joito3

    joito3 Active Member Full Member

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    dlh would have destroyed tszyu
     
  6. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    Kostya is a very underrated boxer because of his massive power. He would hold his own here. Oscar UD, 8-4 or possibly 7-5.
     
  7. Steel Kelly

    Steel Kelly Active Member Full Member

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    Seeing what Mosley did to DLH and his lucky wins against Whitaker and Quartey i don't think so. The Tszyu of 1998/2001 would have been more than a match for DLH.
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would pick DLH in this one...But I also don't understand how you can so easily dismiss Kostya??? Kostya would have at the very least a punchers chance against anyone. I would DLH 116-112 maybe 117-111 hardly leaving Kostya w/ no chance though!
     
  9. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when the build up for the DLH v PBF fight was on over here, they asked Johnny Lewis about each fighters strenghts and weaknesses.

    (Lewis was KT's trainer)

    Lewis said about Oscar something like "excellent fighter - weaknesses are he's a very one handed fighter, and fades down the stretch. Any boxer would just have to watch the left hand, pressure him to keep up a high pace, and watch him fade late"

    All thinks Kostya could do without doubt. I would say that would have been the game plan. this fight is at 140, so Oscars not that much bigger. the older Oscar couldn't make 140, so he hasn't got that advantage.

    I favour oscar by a UD. Any ending is possible here really. I don't see Oscar taking enough chances to stop Kostya. the mentality that cost him the fight v Trinidad testifies to that.

    No doubt though, Kostya would give anyone trouble. Nobody is a 'lock' against him. All of the Oscar fans dismissing Kostyas chances carry on like ODLH is some sort of invincible fighter. he's had a lot of losses for an invincible fighter if thats the case.
     
  10. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    what about the time de la hoya offered winky a career high payday of 4 mils and winky turned it down?
     
  11. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    DLH also fought more quality opposition than KT and has never lost to anybody at the calibur of Vince Philips or Ricky Hatton.


    I happen to be a fan of both fighters but H2H I don't see how KT has any kind of edge over DLH.. and judging from a lot of the responses nobody else can seem to come up with one either aside from the usual puncher's chance which is a pretty slim chance against someone with the type of chin DLH possesses.
     
  12. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    I love KT.

    DLH was bigger than PBF, as we saw PBF box and run.

    PBF was way too big and strength-wise at least matched Hatton.

    Hatton bullied an old KT.

    I think DLH was probably too big for KT. DLH has a chin and KT has a punch, but he couldn't KO Fatton, but PBF could.

    I doubt KT would beat DLH.
     
  13. Steel Kelly

    Steel Kelly Active Member Full Member

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    It's a simple thing really, both had common opponents within 18 months of each man fighting them, go back and watch Tszyu v Gonzalez and Chavez and then watch DLH against the same two guys. There is very little difference as there would be in any match up between DLH and Tszyu. It would have been a great fight and nobody should discount Tszyu's ability to box and not rely on one punch knockout power (refer Miguel Angel Gonzalez)
     
  14. gatorage

    gatorage Active Member Full Member

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    Good point. Tszyu destroyed Gonzales. DLH didn't beat him anywhere as convincingly.

    Not quite so sure about the Chavez fight although you raise a good point that DLH only fought him eighteen months earlier. Chavez was too old, even Tszyu said he didn't want to fight Chavez but the WBC threatened to strip him if he didn't.
     
  15. gatorage

    gatorage Active Member Full Member

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    Mitchell hadn't been knocked down in eleven years prior to fighting Tszyu either. Judah was undefeated along with quite a few others on Tszyu's record.

    He was definitely avoided by many fighters. Gatti's management released a public letter a while back saying Gatti would not fight Tszyu in this lifetime.

    Hatton beat an old Tszyu. Phillips beat a Tszyu that was in court during the day being sued for millions by his promoter and training at night. His trainer told him to delay the Phillips fight and also retire after Mitchell 2. But he didn't and those are losses that will haunt his record.

    Definitely would have been a great fight. Not a blow-out by any means.