Are trainers overrated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ElTrigueno, Jul 17, 2011.

  1. ElTrigueno

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    If Jack Loew, or Yoel Judah, or Buddy McGirt, or a relatively unknown guy trained Mayweather Jr. or Pacquiaio, do we think they'd still be the best in the game?

    Mayweather Sr, Roach, and Steward get tons of praise, and probably well earned, but do they get too much credit? All these guys have a pretty good handful of fighters so how much time do they spend with each?
     
  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    sometimes, i mean like steward he will only take someone on if they are already good and then when they start to loose dump them. So if he has jermain taylor in his glory years it makes him look good but its not like he trained him from day one.
     
  3. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, a really bad trainer can really screw up a talented fighter.So in a way its not overrated.
     
  4. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on what stage a fighter is at in his career and the fighter.
     
  5. fish262

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    If pacman didnt have Roach he wouldnt be the fighter he is today.
     
  6. ElTrigueno

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    ie Paul Williams trainer
     
  7. realdeal561

    realdeal561 Boxing Addict banned

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    Well pacs boxing has improved greatly. At featherweight he was a one trick pony
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    eh not really. Fighters dont get where they are by themselves. Everything they know comes from somebody else. At some point though, trainers are there more or less to keep them sharp and keep their skills up to par. But there's always something new to learn or improve on.
     
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    I think it can make a difference, just look at Paul Williams; If Williams had somebody else besides Patterson he would of learned to stop eating those left hooks by now.
     
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    from what it looks like to me, bhop is like his own trainer and naz is there to kind of be his assistant coach-- keeping tabs on how many times his foe has thrown a certain punch, etc.

    come to think of it, i think hopkins would make a great trainer
     
  11. mayweather sr gets a little too much credit, roach is really doing good with pac and khan, but steward deserves the most credit if you look at what he did with hearns and lewis
     
  12. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Coaches probably don't get enough credit, They just get most of the blame when things go wrong. LOL
     
  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Underratted if you ask me ..Look at Tyson's career and ask again if trainers are overratted ..
     
  14. gumbo2176

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    And let's not forget Panama Lewis and his great contribution to the sport of boxing. He knows how to remove the padding in gloves for better pop and juice a fighter between the late rounds for more stamina.
     
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    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trainer's value are shown not just during training but more importantly on the night of the fight. Dictating the game plan, giving assessments in between rounds, looking for opponents flaws, pointing some errors made by his fighter, those are some major keys to some of the fights. On the top of my mind was the Pac vs Cotto fight. All we can hear from Cotto's corner is "C'mon you can do it".