Wlad should fight an MMA HW champ!

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Cableaddict, Jul 4, 2011.


  1. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    The mass in the baseball bat is bigger.Your example is a falacy.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not to mention the fact that the glove would add weight to mass that already exists in exactly the same place.
     
  3. Theonlyone

    Theonlyone Active Member Full Member

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    You can go ahead and assume in theory that the mass is exactly the same then. No one in their right mind would prefer to get hit by the bat over a paddle regardless.

    College hazing rituals often consist of using paddles, not bats. With good reason.
     
  4. Theonlyone

    Theonlyone Active Member Full Member

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    Increase mass, you also decrease velocity.
     
  5. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy doesn't understand basic logic, you think he's gonna grasp marginally sophisticatd physics?

    I applaud your enthusiasm but just trying to save you some time and effort.
     
  6. Theonlyone

    Theonlyone Active Member Full Member

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    Like frying ants with a magnifying glass. Pointless indeed, but something to do in the moment.
     
  7. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well... touche, sir. (sans the accent mark)
     
  8. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    At the end of the day you are hiting with your whole body starting from the feets, the changes of a few ounces are insignificant in the energy transfered to your brain in the impact.There are a lot of studies from athletic and olympic comites and training gear brands.
     
  9. Theonlyone

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    Let's approach this from a different angle then. How about analyzing variations within the design of just boxing gloves themselves? The differences between brands of boxing gloves are even less pronounced when compared to the greater distinctions they hold when compared to MMA gloves. Yet boxers still recognize the importance of relatively minor changes in size/weight/padding etc. in terms of use for training and actual competition.

    If such differences in proportion are so insignificant then why do boxers typically spar/train with larger/heavier gloves? As you'll see, it's not just about protecting the hands as many have incorrectly suggested.

    The information provided below runs perfectly parallel with everything that I've been already saying. In every instance we find that the smaller gloves are intended to provide increased speed and damage while larger gloves with extra padding are expected to produce the opposite results. The same exact logic should also be applied to the difference between MMA/boxing gloves and to an even greater extent for reasons already mentioned.

    http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-basics/boxing-equipment/101-what-boxing-gloves-to-use

    Sparring Gloves



    Competition Boxing Gloves

    What's the Difference Between Size And Type



    Mexican Style Gloves

    Another corroborating source.

    http://boxingsupplies.info/Sparring-Boxing-Gloves/
    Let's not defy the laws of physics. Let us instead recognize what boxers already know to be true about boxing gloves and apply those same basic understandings to all areas applicable (boxing vs. MMA gloves).
     
  10. Theonlyone

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    More evidence.

    MMA fighters will also usually spar with larger/heavier gloves which are more akin to a boxing glove but even smaller. Why? Once again, larger more heavily padded gloves are equated with increased safety for the sparring partner involved.

    http://www.combatsports.com/MMA-Sparring-Gloves/products/1085/

    MMA Sparring Gloves


    Yet another source related to boxing gloves.


    http://how-to-box.com/content/what-everybody-ought-know-about-boxing-gloves


    How do Boxing Gloves Work?


     
  11. Theonlyone

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    In conclusion.

    A larger, heavier, more padded glove will naturally offer greater weight resistance which reduces velocity.

    It offers a greater amount of force absorbing compression.

    It offers a larger surface area which more evenly distributes the forces being applied thereby lessening the degree to which they are absorbed.

    All of these factors reduce impact and it is the very reason for why sparring/training gloves are designed the way that they are.

    The same logic should also be applied when comparing MMA gloves to boxing gloves. Especially considering the fact that the differential factors in design are even greater.

    Case closed.

    Nothing more to see here folks. Move along.
     
  12. James23

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    A proverbial ass whooping across three posts to show the sheer stupidity of what others were saying?

    You, sir, have moxxy. Bravo.
     
  13. Joe.Boxer

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    :roll:
     
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