Wlad should fight an MMA HW champ!

You make my head hurt every time you post any combination of those gifs.

Because it shows, quite clearly, that you fail to grasp the difference, the very, very big difference, between a pure striking match (be it a boxing match, K-1 contest, Thai fight, etc...) and an MMA match where you can strike but there are other factors that may inhibit your striking (i.e. clinching, takedown threats)

So, you're not clever when you post those, nor are they illustrating your point. They're actually making you look ridiculous to anyone who has an idea of what they're actually talking about.

 

When did I say there was no difference in an mma bout and a pure striking match? I often make posts like this one:

I made a better one describing why Diaz' striking was effective in mma, but I can't find it to put here.

Anyway, it's all relative. Werdum is not a world class striker, but he was able to show that Overeem's punch defense is little more than covering up and stepping backward.

Are you really trying to argue that Overeem could fare well against Wladimir Klitschko, in a boxing match, after watching Overeem vs Werdum?

Oh, I almost forgot.

 

Okay, since you failed to grasp the point of what I said I'll try and illustrate it in another way.

Do you think Wladimir would be able to box as well as he does if he were in an MMA contest against a wrestler like Cain Velasquez?

 

No, but that is not what this thread is about. The person that started this thread was suggesting that good mma heavyweight should fight Wladimir Klitschko in a boxing match. Somewhere along the line, Overeem's name was suggested.

 

Somehow, in some way, you've again failed to see the point of what I said.

Quite a feat, sir, congratulations.

 

What's funny is your ***** ass has never been hit in your life. You roll around like a straight up ****** with your boy JAMES who is GAY as ****.

Believe me, the girl he's thinkin about or WAS is gettin ****ed by a REAL DUDE.

Your girl thinks you are a ******.

Now here is the REAL evidence, you ***** ass ***** ass mother ****in gay ass *****.

SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE RIGHT HERE.

FACT is, MMA fighters got GLASS JAWS.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRmOOWPTRBs[/ame]


Proof is in the pudding, *****. Now go **** JAMES the ******.

 

You are a ***GIT Hendo

The evidence is right here

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEuDDvqYbVw&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

 

Absolutely. Your post is proof that I've never been hit despite doing Muay Thai for 6 years and boxing for just over a year.

How you're not banned is more remarkable then that even. Mods make empty promises to actually moderate.

 

Couple things on Overeem.

1. Remember how he made a wide berth away from facing Semmy Schilt in last year's K-1. And what are Schilt's main strengths?

2. His conditioning SUCKS. Perfect for K-1 due to the short match length and for dispatching MMA scrubs quickly but in a prolonged fight he'd gas badly.

 

What's worse is MMA fighter hit like girls...or do they...

Nope...

Girls HIT HARDER.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eplLem4jPs&feature=related[/ame]

 

That's a woman hitting harder than a Olympic male boxer :rofl It says so at 3 mins, did you even watch this?
She hit at 900lbs with a hook, but Houston hit at 1000 with a straight, the vid is full of ****

And here's Rampage Jacksons effort, a puny 1800lbs

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYMX_3K_xE[/ame]

Not very good at this are you

 

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You have managed to go off topic yet again. I see the point of what you are saying. That is not what this thread is about. Your point would have more validity in a thread arguing Wladimir's boxing would be as effective in mma as it is in boxing. That is the opposite of what is going on here. This thread is about guys that are not world class boxers facing the heavyweight boxing champion of the world, in a boxing match.

Overeem has shown that his punch defense is week in mma.

Overeem has shown his punch defense is weak in K1. Lets check out some footage during his championship run. I want to use fights that he actually won, because I want you to see the best Overeem there is.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrAh9Gh_aU[/ame]

Check this out about 50 seconds into the fight:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9aqWn6SPgA&feature=related[/ame]

Poor punch defense against someone well below world class as a striker in mma. Poor punch defense in K1. I'm betting Overeem's boxing isn't going to hold up against a world class boxer. I'm also aware that defending against 4 limbs is different than just two. I just hope you're aware that his opponent won't be defending against 4 limbs in a boxing match either.

Do you really think Overeem's punch defense is going to hold up in a boxing match against Wlad? Because that is what this thread is about.

 

Just how ****ing stupid are you? Olympic boxer it said, not MMA fighter fool. Ask your mom to usher you back in to your cage where you belong. You never should have been released from captivity in the first place.

 

Check out Hendope's rudimentary vocabulary. I think he's struggling with some repressed homosexual tendencies buried within? He must have accidentally aroused himself during his last pillow fight with his younger brother? It's OK Hendope. Come out of the closet and finally admit it man. We already hate you anyway. You have nothing to lose.

As you can plainly see. Hendope's well of severely limited intelligence has already run dry. Three posts of well-calculated and documented verbal annihilation from myself and the best refutation that this pitiful clown can muster is a few cheesy insults and the same tiresome Youtube clip which we've all seen a hundred times already. How ****ing useless and redundant can one human being possibly be? Hendope always finds a way to consistently lower the bar for himself. His stupidity is boundless.

You see, Hendope is becomiong increasingly angry and frustrated because his embarrassing child-like understanding of physics and how the world works has severly handicapped him in this debate. The best that he can do now is to throw a sissy temper tantrum, stomp his feet like a spoiled brat and hold his breath until he turns blue. It's not as if his compromised little gerbil brain will be effected by the lack of oxygen anyway I suppose. There's not much there to damage to begin with.

Hendope tries to portray himself as some intimidating tough guy because he listens to rap music in his basement and pretends that he's living in a hip-hop video or something. I guarantee that this sorry excuse for a human being has never had so much as a knife pulled on him in real life. He'd **** his ****ing pants and beg for mommy. His idea of a street fight is arguing with an elderly woman over a handicapped parking spot at the grocery store. He's a phony and a fraud who is not only mentally ******ed, but living a lie and is too ashamed to admit it.


Check the (1:40) time mark and then bow your head in shameful defeat. And remember, GSP's punch was said to have registered 2859 lbs of force (Cain registered 2230) by Sports Science. I'm sorry but I'm just not willing to hang my hat on these shoddy experiments where too many variables are not not controlled. No two punches are thrown or land exactly the same way, even if they are the same exact style of punch.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcy1DTr5KDI[/ame]

Cain Velasquez hits harder than any boxer tested on Sports Science

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEEIM_covA0[/ame]

 

Has anyone ever seen the boxing documentary 'Assault in the Ring' relating to the scandal surrounding the Resto-Collins fight in 1983?

Hmmmm...

But a few ounces of extra padding only holds a negligible difference right? Apparently cheaters don't feel the same way. Why remove the padding if it's only there to protect the bones in the hand? We all know the truth despite the desperate deniers claims.

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