Wlad should fight an MMA HW champ!

Simple is the correct word

Ding Dong

You're in the closet

 

Destroyed me? You've haven't been able to prove a single point thus far. Not even remotely close. You post videos which actually contradict the very arguments that you're trying to make. You are your own worst enemy and you're too thick to realize it.

You really should request some professional assistance to aid you in everyday life. You shouldn't be allowed to leave your cage without at least some form of supervision or a shock collar and a leash.

 

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Who is your sparring partner there Hendope?

 

Look what a "pillow" glove can do to your liver...


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Just imagine how it would have been with less padding. Dude's liver may have exploded.

 

You're still doing it which was absolutely amazing.

I can see trends and I'm not even an Overeem fan, so your point about said dick being in said mouth is kind of moot.

Of course there was a threat of going on the mat, what the hell do you think he was worried about? BJJ fighters and wrestlers are going for the same thing, albeit in different ways. So, when you say Werdum wasn't a wrestler, while true, it somehow misses the point entirely. His point, quite clearly, in the fight was to take Overeem down. He tried constantly.

All I'm saying and have been saying is that you're drawing a false correlation and it doesn't work. That as the whole point of my Wlad in MMA example. I even drew this out in the clearest terms imaginable, yet you still fail to grasp the point even when made explicit.

 

You were using Cain in your example. Cain is better at take downs than Werdum, or at least I believe him to be. Werdum could not take Overeem down. Overeem did not have to fear Werdum's take down attempts as much as he would Cain's. That's not to say he doesn't have to respect Werdum's ability to get him down, but he should have taken more chances while standing up with Werdum. All Overeem did was put his hands up, and back away. He does the same thing in K1. I'm willing to bet that is what he will do in a boxing match, because that is what he always does. That is his go to move in pure striking and mma.

My points are way more relevant than your Wlad theory. First, you are talking about a boxer jumping into mma. That is not what this is. We are on the opposite subject. We are talking about an mma fighter jumping into the ring with boxing's best heavyweight. So what if Wlad would look like **** if you incorporate take downs? We are talking about a boxing match, so that does not matter. Overeem's boxing looks shitty in mma and K1. I don't think it's going to look that much better if he jumps into a boxing match. Especially if it is against one of the best in boxing.

I think Overeems boxing is ****. Why does that bother you?

 

haters gona hate. like to see wanderlei fight bernard hopkins in a kickboxing match.

 

Your points aren't as relevant to your point as the Wlad comparison is to mine.

I think OVereem would do poorly in a boxing match against Wlad, too, I agree with you, however your reasoning, with respect to the Werdum match and drawing conclusions (even if just partially) based on that is simply an incorrect way to do what you're trying to do. That's what I've been trying to say with varying degrees of candor for several posts now. The whole point of the Wlad thing was to show that the same logic you're attempting to apply can also be run in reverse to show that given altered conditons then it'll alter the technique.

It'd be like comparing Usian Bolt on a track and Usain Bolt with full football gear on trying to run up and down a field with a ball, etc... yes, he's still running but clearly there are things that are preventing him from reaching his maximum speed.

Please, please tell me that makes sense because I do think that it is impossible to be more clear then I am being now.

 

Again, my points are more relative.

Against Werdum, we see Overeems tuck his tail and run from punches defense on display the entire fight. Overeem did not block, or parry, and counter. Overeem did not use footwork to set up attack angles. Overeem covered up and ran backwards.

Overeem handles situations the same way in K1. That is his go to move when pressed in punching range.

Wladimir is not coming to mma. We have nothing but guessing as to how it would affect his boxing while in punching range. You should have said, let's see how mma affects Overeem's boxing; since we actually have footage of him in pure striking and mma bouts. As we can see, Overeem has the same shitty boxing technique in both K1 and mma. It would be different if Overeem fought similar Dekkers, or Payakaroon, while he is in K1; and then his boxing turns to **** against Werdum. Then we cay say, Oh, the rules changes have turned his boxing to ****." The thing is, that is not the case. Overeem's boxing is always shitty, grappling included or not.

So forget about your Wlad comparison, because that is a different guy that is not facing any rule changes. We are talking about Overeem, who is a shitty boxer, jumping in a boxing ring with boxing's best heavyweight.

Oh, and your Bolt comparison would have been better if you took him from the 100 and 200, and put him in a decathlon. Why not just put him in rugby or soccer? Because that is ridiculous. Football has running, but it is not a track sport.

 

I am amazed beyond words that you really don't get it, particularly the last part.

I give up, I really do. Good luck.

 

Oh my god, if you can't get that you need to give up. MMA is a combat sport, that has elements of several fighting styles. Mainly bjj, wrestling, Thai Boxing, and boxing. MMA is a mixture of combat styles.

Football is not a mixture of track events. A decathlon is. That would make for a better comparison.

You're finding it impossible to reason with me, because you have no sense of rationale.

I'll still say that Wlad will **** Overeem up in a boxing ring, even with Overeem not having to worry about Wlad's take down. I can't even believe we're having this discussion. It's ****ing pointless, especially if you are ****ing stupid enough to think your getting the better of it.

 

James23 got ****ED UP.

 

HENDO should be hereinafter referred to as DUMBO.

This guy picked Haye ko over WK, PW to beat Lara becasue Lara cannot effectively fight outside and then most recently ZAB ko over Khan.

yo hendo, you got anymore picks for us? we'll just choose the exact opposite as you make a great FADE.

****ing HENDO. the dumbest tool in the bag.