The post-fight review: Khan and Fury.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by dftaylor, Jul 25, 2011.


  1. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I wanted to get some views about what we witnessed on Saturday. Have the men improved/regressed? Were they flattered by their opponents? What do we see in their futures? What do you think about them now?

    Khan:
    Amir deserves a prize for most-improved in the last three years. He’s resurrected his career from a pitiful loss and beaten some really good names in his weight class. Judah, the best guy he’s faced (based on age, weight and current ability), really couldn’t do anything with him. And as much as Judah quit, it was Khan that made him quit, which is very impressive.

    We saw some nice subtleties from Khan on Saturday. He stepped around Judah rather than backing up out of range – something that nearly cost him against Maidana. He brought his left hook in whenever Judah tried to circle into range. He used his lead right from angles to shorten the distance. And he was actually pretty accurate for once considering Judah’s defensive approach to the fight. After the travesty of the Mcloskey fight, it’s good to see Khan improving and correcting those mistakes.

    But Khan was basically able to do what he wanted, so it was perhaps easier to show those skills. There was no one forcing him to make mistakes, so he really didn’t. So, it was a good performance, but one that hasn’t answered all the questions yet.

    I do think the Bradley fight is going to be closer now than I did. Khan’s height and size are going to be big factors. His handspeed and improved punching form mean he’ll get more from the opportunities on offer, possibly scoring a flash KD here and there. If Bradley can take away the jab though, I’m not sure what Khan’s going to do. Bradley needs to get inside to do his work, particularly that overhand right.

    It’s clear to me from the tactics Roach has been working on that he preparing Khan for Bradley. The sidesteps and punching angles look custom-made for use against a small pressure fighter who wants to work in close.

    I’ll say this – Khan is going to be hard to beat on this form. And he’s only 24 – a few years from his physical prime.

    Fury:
    I was impressed by a lot of things from Fury. His combo punching was excellent for such a big man, he kept his composure even after he got hurt in the second, and he never fell for any of Chisora’s traps.

    He’d be well-advised to avoid either of the brothers, but he can have his successes, especially considering he’s only 22. He’s racked up an excellent domestic resume and he looked much-improved on Saturday.

    My concerns are what they’ve always been. He’s sloppy at times, his stamina is a work-in-progress, and he is very open to wide punches considering his height advantage. But really, that’s nitpicking for someone who showed such guts and maturity for a young fighter. And I always love seeing body punching – I wish Tyson had done more of that. If he had, I think he’d have got the stoppage.

    What do you all think?
     
  2. Scottrf

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    Khan: Again showed off his impressive handspeed and jab, controlled range easily. Will take a special boxer to beat him from range. Seemed to have tightened up his defense and was impressed by his footwork more than I have been. Judah didn't really pressure him though.

    Fury, honestly not impressed. Lots of pitter patter punches, clueless when Chisora unloaded. Why didn't he react to Chisora dropping his hands? I know it's a ploy but Chisora was so slow to do anything he could have caught him. Don't think he has any ring generalship which he should with his size.
     
  3. DrMo

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    Havent seen the Khan fight other than the KO

    Fury-Chisora was an excellent fight. Fury showed good variety in his punches, worked well to the body & used some good feints. He fought well on the inside, showed good stamina (compared to some of his previous fights) & although he wasnt defensively great he showed a lot of grit & determination when he was caught.

    Chisora lost this fight before it even started, had he been in better condition then the fight may have been a lot closer (I had it 118-110 Fury). An in shape Chisora who used the jab more often & boxed rather than throwing wild haymakers might have won this.

    Fury said his left hand was injured in his post fight interview, any news on that anyone?
     
  4. dftaylor

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    Would explain the switching to southpaw. He actually did ok in that stance. He shows a real desire to learn new things.
     
  5. DrMo

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    I have seen him do that in previous fights, esp against Nascimento, but not as often as he did with DelBoy.

    To add to my review I was impressed by Chisora's heart, even though he was getting caught a lot & was clearly tired. Del is a tough guy & would be hard for any HW to take out.
     
  6. Jonsey

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    I think its time for even Khans biggest critics to get on the band waggon. He is clearly class and I do have him as the UK's No.1 fighter (I am as big a fan of Froch as you can get)

    I don't think Judah quit, it was an ilegal blow....but it didn't make a difference to the outcome. The stoppage was coming.

    Khan showed allot of elements to his game on satruday with DF has pointed out well. I think Khan vs Bradley is the most competative figth in world boxing right now. As 50-50 as you can get. Khan is now 100% in the top 10 P4P. Its a shame it looks like the Bradley fight may not happen.


    With Fury its just clear he needs a proper trainer although his uncle did seem to come up with a good plan and motivated Tyson well. Surley there is someone in the Manchester area he would work with. Oliver Harrison would be my pick.

    Your right when you point out Furys age. He can only improve. I really don't think there is a need to rush him. I still question his chin as I don't think Chisora is a big puncher.

    For me Chisora let himself down. He could have won the fight had he come in shape. No clue where he goes from here.
     
  7. markinmidd

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    i thought judah was looking for a way out, this due to amirs speed an acccuracy.Im really impressed with amir last few fights.
    Fury, this guy is fantastic for the sport,hes being pushed more n more now to the general public and they will lap up his charisma an honesty.
    Fight wise, hes gonna get kncked the **** out unless he tooks his chin down.Always get it up an begging to be clipped.Takes a great shot tho to be fair to him but needlessly so.Also think that over half the time he doesnt punch correctly, sure they ****ing hurt tho!God jab but if he had better footwork then he could really get his power shots off better.Plus side, guts galore, can go the distance an i hard fight,always looks relaxed in the ring, hence him doing the distance.
     
  8. Vincenzo

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    It's about time the Khan haters gave him his due. He totally outboxed Judah who stayed down to save himself the embarrassment of taking a 12 round beating.

    Khan is definitely the UK's top boxer and the man with the best trainer. He's till young, learning and improving. We should be proud of this guy. British boxers who are the match of the best around and will fight the big fights, not pad their record by staying at home, don't come along very often. Props to Amir.

    I enjoyed Fury-Chisora, though not sure how far either will go. Impresses by Fury's combinations and I don;t beleive he was hurt at any point. He's nowhere near world class but then neither was Wladimir Klitschko at 22.

    With the right trainer he might get there one day. Not sure how much power he has for his size though.

    Chisora was out of shape for which there's no excuse. If you can't get up for a fight like that, you're going nowhere. Shame, because he also has talent.
     
  9. roe

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    To be honest, I don't get what the fuss is about with Khan's win over Judah. It was nearly the exact same thing as the Paul McCloskey fight. Amir again won every minute of every round before a less than weak stoppage.

    Khan is clearly very good, but Judah isn't. He lost to Matthysse before and got a couple of good knockouts against nobodies. That's it. All this.. 'he's been in with Cotto, Mayweather etc'.. yeah they all pummelled him! Khan's best opponent to date? Give off. Stylistically, Judah had only one chance against Khan and that was hoping that a random swing somehow scores a knockout.

    But that said, Khan is definitely improving and it really is amazing how much better and more focused he's been since he's been with Freddie Roach. I think he beats Bradley if he's 100% but that would be a close fight. Really hope Morales isn't next..


    As for Fury, well he got the job done. Chisora is a massive letdown though. If he was properly determined then who knows how good he could be because he clearly had Tyson worried more than a few times. But too much clowning around rather than boxing to a gameplan cost him massively.

    Fury is big, determined, entertaining but a little clumsy. He's not amazing but again he's still really young and there's plenty of time to tighten a few things up. Hope he stays on Channel 5 for the next couple of years fighting regularly as he could make a massive name for himself. There's about a dozen good title defences he could make now and I hope he makes at least half of them as he realistically could win them all.
     
  10. Primadonna Kool

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    "But Khan was aloud to do everything thing he wanted" Why was that..? Because of his own ability shutting down Judah.