Is Wladimir Klitschko unfairly advantaged over his opponents?

Very interesting and balanced post, Bubby!

 

Exactly, what kind of **** is it to bring up a ****ing 5 foot 5 man fighting in an extreme case and claims its representative of the advantage that Wlad enjoys every single fight?

Joe Frazier? He was sub 6 foot, why would you bring that up?

Zouski? Scraped 6 foot if he was lucky

What in gods name are you talking about OP?

 

So, how does one man (who himself is the abberation - not Foreman) mean that Wlad doesn't have an unusual advantage?

Wlad towers and outweighs natural heavyweights.

Qawi is the height of the average lightweight

What do you think this proves?

:blood

If every opponent Foreman fought was 5'6, and he was fighting as a Super Featherweight, then you would have a point, as it is, you don't.

 

Like I said earlier. The physical advantages mean almost NOTHING without skill. Julius Long, Tye Fields, etc... there are a lot of guys bigger than Wladimir, and none of them are anywhere close to being as good.

 

Most boxing experts are going to favor the ATG that is 250 lbs with 3 inch of height and reach advantage over the ATG that is 210 lbs and that much smaller.

For the health of boxing; in the interest of promoting good, watchable fights; there ought to be a 200-225 division. That doesn't mean heavyweight and superheavyweights won't fight each other--they should continue to fight each other. It just means there is a new set of titles to fight for and the top guys at 200-225 get more recognition.

Wlad should take on some bigger opponents. A fight vrs. Valuev would have been nice but I guess SNV is done fighting.

A match against someone like Dimitrenko would be a good way for Wladimir to demonstrate the capacity to win without being the bigger man.

 

Ok I'm gonna make this very simple.

Wladimir Klitschko is incredibly effective, becuase he has learned / been taught, to use his best asset to his advantage, which is undoutably his size (Very near 6'7, and 81'' reach, in addition to weighing 240lbs without being close to overweight)

He fights in a manner, that makes the most, in the most extreme sense, of his height.

He will hide behind his jab, grab everytime the opponent gets past it, use his reach to control range, he is incredibly cautious, and seems to lose his composure when he has to do otherwise.

He also appears to have no real Plan B when fighting, hence the reason nobody ever levels this accusation at Vitali, if someone slips Wlads jab, he won't uppercut or outmanouver them with footwork, he will simply clinch, until the ref breaks, and his reach/height advantage is resumed, where he feels comfortable, and can keep his opponent at bay

If people with a working mind, cannot see why this will make people accuse him of being so successful because of his height (which they never do with Vitali for obvious reasons) then....well, you don't have a working mind.

He is obviously skilled, but the way he fights, the very way he has been so succesful, could NOT be achieved if he wasn't unusually big.

This is undeniable.

 

And i agree with you. He is very skilled and has good raw talents to boot. But it still doesn't change the FACT that he is 6'6" and 240 lbs almost bone dry and he dwarfs other "elite" HWs that he faces. And i can't ignore this fact and i can't give him full credit when he beats these guys.

 

I do not recall LL getting aywhere near the criticism Vlad gets, while having even more physical advantages over his opponents than Vlad.

 

Even if you eliminate the size advantage, he still has an equilizer ramrod jab and that destructive right. Left hook is pretty awesome too, when he freakin uses it.

I've always wanted him to throw that left hook to the body. I imagine it would quickly wear down any opponent, or end them right there. Taking away his height advantage would negate his reason for not doing so.

 

Because he wasn't a one-dimensional fighter. And he is also smaller. :blood

 

Might as well not give Pac any credit because hes naturally so much faster than almost any of his opponants.
Might as well not give Foreman any credit either because he was so much stronger.

If you cant give Wlad credit just because hes taller you might as well stop watching this sport all together.
The selective methods people use to discredit boxers they dislike is just amazing to me.

Guess we should only roundup men that are the same height, weight, age, speed, reach, power and whoever has the most pure boxing skill wins.

 

I mean come on, let's not get carried away and give Wlad credit for beating bums his own size. I mean Pacman gets crucified for "cherry picking" guys 15 lbs bigger than him who are elite or close to elite at their respective weights.

 

He was 1 inch smaller and the same weight as Wlad.....
He also for the most part was a very cautious working behind the jab kind of fighter (probably has something to do with the same frigging trainer)

 

Care to find anyone in the thread who has said what you've claimed?