I've decided.... both Waldo AND Vitlay would beat Muhammad Ali....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RAMPAGE0017, Jan 7, 2008.


  1. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    Right, people dont feed this troll anymore. He's not giving any sort of sensible debate, he's obviously got a day off work & thinks a constructive way to fill it will be to sit on this thread all day arguing with people. Ignore him.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    One last 'feed' for the troll.

    I'm a fan of both Klitschkos. I think they both get more than their fair share of hate posts on here.

    However, neither one is in my top 10 list yet and at this stage, neither one is likely to make that list.

    Ali beats both by wide UD. He might even stop Wlad.
     
  3. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali would stop Wald and win a UD against Vitali
     
  4. bratwurzt

    bratwurzt Whore Full Member

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    I am a boxing fan who likes to think they have a bit of knowledge of the sport.
    However, try as I may (I have watched a lot of Ali footage) I just cannot for the life of me see how people regard this 'smaller' man so high. He wasn't even undefeated in his own era, he was dropped on his arse by Henry bloody Cooper etc.
    Please tell me how these modern heavyweight would not walk through his punches. Don't laugh but I see nothing but Bowe v Hide here.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I've decided you're a schmuck. :good
     
  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Small? He was 6'3 210-220 pounds in his prime. He was also far faster and more mobile than any Heavyweight before or since, with some of the fastest hands as well, along with Tyson and Patterson. He would box circles around a lot of the Heavyweights of today in his prime.

    Wlad though, could be a bad matchup for the 70's Ali, but the younger, faster, more mobile 60's Ali may have still beaten him.
     
  7. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    I've decided.... both Waldo AND Vitlay would be beaten by Muhammad Ali....

    .. by stoppage or by significantly wide decision.

    And anyone who says otherwise is a dip****. :good
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    The veracity of your first sentence is shot to pieces by everything you wrote after that.
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He would have to improve some before he would even be at that level !
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Waldo.. interesting name. Are these trolls scripts planted by the mods? Or are they real people?
     
  11. bratwurzt

    bratwurzt Whore Full Member

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    Not really, you can't really judge my knowledge on the assessment of one man.
     
  12. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rampage, in your opinion, would Ali in his prime ever lose to Corrie Sanders or Lamon Brewster?

    Not making a direct comparison as boxing results arent transitive, but if the outcome of these matches is in doubt, how can Klitschko vs Ali be so clear?

    Both Vitaly and Wladimir are hard on Ali stylistically, as they are taller and particularly Wlad can box for a bit, but a younger Ali would be darting in and out on angles and would touch Wlad's chin often. And there's a good chance he would be on ***** street from a right hand.
     
  13. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Says the guy who thinks Harry Greb can beat modern fighters.
     
  14. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not only that but the KLITS would vaporize 70 percent of Ali's competition.
     
  15. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The outcome of those matches are not clear as I haven't elaborated on them.

    Ali vs Brewster? - Ali by decision

    Ali vs Sanders? - Ali by decision

    either KLIT vs Ali? KLIT by late stoppage or decision. :good

    In order for Ali to even touch Wlad's chin he'd have to penetrate Wladimir's or Vitaly's range, and Ali was far from untouchable even in his prime. Wladimir would have little trouble hammering Ali with his jab and time him with hard right hands. Vitaly? For a big man he throws quick accurate strikes and even puts together combinations as well.. again.. not a whole lot of trouble tagging Ali.