De La Hoya Seems To Think He Has The Key To Beat Floyd

thats there only excuse....u know they cling to anything that remotely makes Floyd look bad.

Fact is if your great your great...SRL took time off and still came back and did great things and looked great....Floyd does it and he typicaly does the same...although the level of comp is questionable.

Oscar although great in his own right just is not as good as people put on and he loss that fight CLEARLY and a SD was bullshyt if you ask me...nothing close about that fight but Oscar did well and made it competitive...still a UD for me clearly in Floyd's favor.

If you have seen some of the judging going on lately...you would know judges fukk up for whatever reason....Oscar/Floyd should have been a clear UD..not onesided...but still a clear UD.

 

Nobody needs to make excuses for Mayweather, he's never lost. Now are you implying that being almost 35 and out of the ring for over a year and a half is no excuse for losing?

 

I also think it's hilarious that Hatton coming up one division was such a huge disadvantage while Mayweather moving up to his 5th division is no disadvantage at all.

 

In his prime he would have. He gave him trouble.

 

fight was close. in real time, i saw oscar winning because he was the more aggressive fighter but the fight turned into floyd's favor in the later rounds. during the replay, it's where i saw floyd's sneaky counters.

 

Hatton discredit is bullshyt....we are talking about 7 pounds here to a guy who balloons well over that when not fighting.

Hatton looked and fought the same way he has always fought at 140...he just was in there with a better fighter. Hatton and camp underestimated how tough,crafty, and good Floyd is and he didnt know what to do when he closed with what Floyd was doing....it would have been the same at any weight.

 

What ever DLH knows Ortiz is not the guy to be able to use that advice.

 

He also still gassed in his prime....and keep in mind a younger fresher Floyd is still quicker and moved a lot more....still a tough fight for Oscar.

People have to understand Floyd is not i his prime either physicaly. Physicaly in Floyd's prime he gave you EVERYTHING and had the physical tools to do so....he is still a problem for anyone!

 

140lbs and 147lbs are basically the same thing.

That's why Floyd's fighting a guy in Victor Ortiz who couldn't beat Lamont Peterson at 140lbs and who couldn't avoid getting tagged with Maidana's right hand repeatedly until he quit.

 

Oscar was a part time fighter who went up against an ATG Floyd Mayweather Jr in his prime.

Floyd Mayweather is a part time fighter who is going up against Victor Ortiz, a guy who's only fought 12 rounds once in his entire career and who's 1-1 (1 loss by KO) in title fights.

As for being past prime Oscar lost to B-class Felix Sturm in 2004

 

Oscar had only fought 6 rounds (one fight) in the previous 2 years and 8 months before fight Floyd! Floyd will have fought 24 rounds (2 fights) in that time span by the time he fights Ortiz. Actually, Floyd has fought those two fights within the last 2 years.

Can you explain to me how that makes Floyd even less active than Oscar was back then?:huh Double the amount of fights... 4 times the amount of rounds. :think I am not sure that we are working with the same logic or figures here. Also... Oscar was 34 years old... Floyd will also be 34 years old when he fights Ortiz.

Oscar's age wasn't the problem. Like I said... Oscar was a part time fighter, he didn't live in the gym like Floyd does, and he was much less active. Not only in the gym, but also in the ring. On top of that he had a huge promotional company that he was much more involved in than he was his own boxing career.

 

Even if he was more inactive you still wouldn't count that in Floyd's favor because you'll do anything to discredit him

 

The fight appeared competitive, because, Oscar was throwing (and missing) a lot, and having some early success with the jab. But, since the rounds are scored independently, and based on clean effective punching, Floyd did better in that department.

 

Not close at all. Floyd did what he wanted when he wanted.

 

Roach has admitted, on more than a few occasions, he does not have a game plan to beat Floyd, yet. Oscar was just not good enough, at that stage of his career, and Roach wasn't either.