Good points. Most people are virtually ******ed, and believe whatever the corrupt media or their regime tells them, even when totally physically impossible--as is the case here. In other words, there is no functioning brain in most people to oppose what the media or govt tells them to believe. As for the part in bold: There was an infamous case, where a US Dept of Agriculture investigator--who had been working to indict Vice-President Lyndon Johnson for corruption and fraud--was found shot 5 times in the head with a bolt action rifle. After "investigation," corrupt judge (in Texas) ruled it "officially" a suicide. Many years later, when an LBJ accomplice got out of jail, and after LBJ was long dead, said he was there at the shoot, and the shooter was LBJ himself. Case was officially reopened by new judge and ruled a murder-- something that was obvious originally. The tards here would still say it was a suicide because the media and Govt originally said so.
What are you talking about? It just goes to show how strong people's feelings towards their favorite athletes are. That they won't even entertain for a second the idea that they would do something like this.
How ironic of you, noodle boy. Is there any witness that can attest to the other 5 "signs of suicide from depression.": Talking about killing or harming ones self Expressing strong feelings of hopelessness or being trapped An unusual preoccupation with death or dying Acting recklessly, as if they have a death wish (e.g. speeding through red lights) Calling or visiting people to say goodbye Getting affairs in order (giving away prized possessions, tying up loose ends) Saying things like Everyone would be better off without me or I want out. I don't think so, which is why his family investigated. The thing a (wannabe?) shrink like you can never comprehend is that the physical circumstances outweigh what amateur shrinks--who always side with whatever impossibilities are put out by the media/govt say--theorize. Their psychobabble theories are just that. All youhave done is add more nonsense, "He killed himself because he was sad. No he killed himself because he was now happy." One day reality will hit you and your keyboard. But you won't know it alas. You will just believe it is more chicken noodle soup thrown at you. Better for you to try to find witnesses for his depression, then to theorize with your keyboard.
Well said Jake. And Happy 90th birthday to you. Still sharp! Maybe Gatti would have followed in your footsteps and also lived to a nice old age. Real sad, he hooked up with that *****.
And it is highly likely that Arguello was murdered as well. What with the involvement of mayoral politics and such. Just say you will fight corruption, and if genuine, the corrupt forces will off you in no time. I don't buy his "suicide" or Gatti's. Hopefully tmow wil see some justice for the great warrior. Doesn't look like Arguello's family will step up, as Gatti's friends and family did. Maybe fear, as it all in that same country. RE Gatti, at least the friends and family are several thousand miles from where the police et al were apparently bought off. Fightnews now has the story: http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/investigator-rules-out-gatti-suicide-91955 Investigator rules out Gatti suicide I am so happy to be proven wrong about my fears of a whitewash, and glad I posted this thread. In addition to trying to get the wife and any accomplices indicted, I hope pressure is brought to bear on the corrupt officials in Brazil who dropped charges and let her go.
These news sources are printing that the press conference will be on Aug 30. I hope that is a typo, as that is a long time to wait. But at least we now know that the conclusion is that he was murdered.
Why do I need to find a witness? You asked for a link to back up what I stated. I did so and you get all bent out of shape.:huh I don't recall even giving an opinion other than we will never know the truth. That is fact and reality. I guess a lesson you will likely not learn is to not ask a question if you truly do not want it answered. I never claimed to be a shrink, just educated.:hi:
Indeed, pure BS. Sometimes I even wonder about Valero--if he was set-up? But with Gatti and Arguello, I never wondered. Figured those two were murdered from day one. At least Gatti may get some justice. Or maybe not, if the Brazilian authorities choose to ignore this new autopsy and M.E.'s findings. We would need an international law attorney to comment on whether the new findings will have effect. As the new findings I believe are from a private examination, a state or federal Govt would have to be brought in and agree with the conclusion, and then try to bring pressure on the Brazilian Govt to reindict the *****. So seems like a long haul to come. But maybe knowing that the cat is out of the bag, she may **** up somehow. But she will probably not dare to leave Brazil henceforth.
No that is BS. An honest autopsy now having been done has appaently proven that he couldn't have killed himself. (Also obvious from day one to some of us who can think independently--and don't merely attempt to justify the lunacies put out by the MSM.) The "we can never know" line is a real copout used by mental midgets who never oppose the status quo.
Instead of holding press conferences why dont they hand this 'conclusive evidence; over to the police and get Gattis wife arrested? Something tells me no arrests will come of this.
See, you are really are making this unnecessarily difficult. I could give two shits about what really happened to him. The point that you are missing is I addressed an issue about depression and suicide. Yes, it is unfortunate that Gatti went the way of the Dodo, I have never offered an opinion to the matter. I just addressed the issue of depression and suicide. You think that you are a great thinker and going against the grain because of your OPINION? That we will never know the truth is a fact dummy, not a cop out. EVERYTHING else is OPINION, WHICH IS ONES INTERPRETATIONS OF EVIDENCE. BUT IT WILL NEVER, EVER BE FACT.