Rogan-wont fight Fury on Sept 17

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  1. Jonny The Hips

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  3. rampant

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    Rogan is pants anyway, he has a heart but no stamina! Fury beats him easily.
     
  4. modestbiggles

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    Rogan not fought in 9 months, and apart from 2 fights against the bum of the month club, he hasn't had a fight in 2 years.

    he isn't relevant.
     
  5. vegasjim

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    rogan had loads of stamina ,ask audley and skelton.retired injured in the 2 sexton fights.rogan has by far the better stamina of the 2 if he comes back as fit as he was 2 years ago.
     
  6. sud2002

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    He had Sexton in trouble in both fights if I can remember right, I rate him as a decent opponent and will be a decent match up on paper to sell.
     
  7. SimonTemplar

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    At this point you would think that Rogan would take the fight with Fury if it were offered. He will think he can win it, and can then get better paydays for defences. With age and injuries, and a pretty simplistic style, and with the fact that - whereever he ends up overall - currently Fury is improving with each fight, and has the US rep of being undefeated - you would think that this is the best time for Rogan to fight Fury. If they renegotiate for next year, as some have suggested, all the indications are that Fury will have improved somewhat and Rogan will just be a year older. I think he is making a mistake turning this down over money, if that is what has happened, given where he is in career terms.

    He is not going to get a world title shot, and even should he win the European belt will not command as much as Fury in purse, so I think he should have gone for the big event fight with Fury now. He must feel that he has a shot at knocking him out, which would be a great career relaunch. This is at odds with his 'I'll fight anyone, anywhere' reputation.

    I like Rogan, but am disappointed that he turned this down.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

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    There's two sides to every story, but judging by Rogan's comments he doesn't seem all that enthusiastic.

    He probably feels disrespected that they are choosing him as a first defence and are willing to take the fight on his own ground.

    Rogan seems to have an option or two in Europe so will probably go where the money is.

    That said, it seems like a logical fight for the pair of them at this stage..... Rogan's not had a meaningful fight for a couple of years and Fury doesn't have many options outside of a return with fatboy.
     
  9. SimonTemplar

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    I agree with you, just think that previously he has traded on excitement and taking on allcomers, I just don't see the money in Europe being any better than the Fury money, and certainly without as much opportunity for glory, so am just surprised he has turned it down. The lineage of the Fury titles is arguably better than that of the European, currently, looking at the length of tenure and the name of each of the champions.

    Anyway, am rambling now and we agree so will sign off!
     
  10. dftaylor

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    Rogan’s a top guy, but it’s not like he’s a great fighter. He’s done well considering his age, lack of experience and stylistic disadvantages. But the losses to Sexton show he doesn’t have the engine needed to sustain his chosen style anymore.

    He beat Audley on sheer grit, constantly working and pushing the fight. He overwhelmed Skelton though industry and Matt’s declining punch resistance. But in neither case did he use a strong skill set to get the win.

    Fury is very raw still, but he’s using his jab more, is getting better on his feet, has a decent chin and will work for 12 rounds even when he’s tired. Rogan seems like his natural stamina is dwindling, so he’d probably get stopped again.

    I like Martin. He’s a brave guy with real decency (like when he told his fans to respect Sam Sexton – classy move), but no point him fighting Fury.
     
  11. SimonTemplar

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    I agree with you on every point about Rogan (except maybe the dwindling stamina - between injury and the subsequent inactivity it has been too long since we have seen him on form for me to judge on that point), but I would have thought that Rogan would genuinely believe that he can take Fury at the moment, but maybe not in another year. So against that context I am surprised that he does not seem up for it, with the titles that would be on the line. Although I agree with you that even a work-in-progress Fury has too much for Rogan imho.
     
  12. DavidPayne

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    There is some over-stating of Rogan's pedigree, one would believe him to be an Irish Jack Dempsey if the promotion of his credentials were to be believed. He is removed from his brief prime, but he looked very trim at ringside, and sometimes a fighter can be refreshed by a break. However, the truth is, he won a Prizefighter event and overcame Audley narrowly, which is not the accomplishment Audley's more substantial pedigree should have ensure it was.

    But at this point in time, Rogan would provide the perfect foil for Fury's development and one would presume if the split of purse/money was reflective of their individual standing, then Rogan is unlikely to earn better elsewhere.

    One would also assume, unless Rogan has far more self-awareness than we are crediting him with, he will believe Fury has enough flaws for him to capitalise upon.

    Its a fight I'd like to see based on their respective styles, and one which should, unless Rogan has regressed markedly in semi-retirement, provide Channel 5 with an entertaining offering for is new audience.

    Audley is the bigger cash cow, would be easy to promote but there is a much greater risk of the spectacle being damaging to CH5 impetus.
     
  13. SimonTemplar

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    Completely agree!
     
  14. dftaylor

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    David, the Skelton win was more impressive than the Audley one, I’d say. Skelton is more proven at domestic level and has proven more consistent. Given that Rogie was the first to stop him, I’d say that was worth looking at in a domestic title clash.

    He is a decent fighter, brings pace and pressure and should make for a good fight with Fury, even though I am very confident he’ll lose to the much bigger man.

    Audley’s worthless at this stage. How can you promote him after the last shameful display?