Burns v Broner being finalised by Schaefer

I see the fight going all the way 115 -113 to Burns. Burns may get put on the deck but will get straight back up and, the key will be Burns out jabbing Broner.

 

Yes, Boxing Monthly, who have the following gems:

• Lucian Bute #1 at Super-Middle
• Antonio Margarito #1 at Light-Middle
• Miguel Acosta #9 at Lightweight
• Orlando Salido ahead of Yuriorkis Gamboa at Featherweight
• Anselmo Moreno #2 at Bantamweight
• Omar Nino Romero above Gilberto Kebb Bass at Light-Flyweight
• Danny Green #1 at Cruiser(I'm aware it's probably not updated, but having him there anyways is laughable)

Is that really much more credible than The Ring's? I highly doubt it.

 

Have you read the thread title??

 

my hunch would be wazza wins the purse bids.

he tends to win em when he has an arena to sell.

the braehead needs a big fight.

davey haggerty time. :yep

 

Your clearly not reading the thread stupid hole,according to Schifer hes going to England for talks for a fight with BRONER :huh:huh know Rickys preference is Fana purely for that belt then he will gladly take care of Broner

 

Massive over exaggeration that. Just because Broner has a W vs Ponce de Leon (which he shouldn't have got) and Ricky hasn't got a win of that calibre yet, doesn't mean in any way that Broner is a cert to beat him. Yes, he's shown a good deal of promise and looks a decent boxer but he'll have to show a lot more if he wants to step up and beat Burns IMO.

Burns uses his reach and height advantages well behind a very good jab and has lovely punch variety to catch those coming in too. His uppercuts are very accurate shots, the body punches are his most dangerous in terms of hurting an opponent plus he also possesses an excellent chin; so Broner would find it a lot harder to 'blast him out'. I don't see anything particularly outstanding in terms of movement of feet or head in Broner that would convince me he would regularly be able to get inside vs Burns and unleash the quick combos which I do think he does nicely though.

Just because he's had a dire set of 'challengers' since winning the belt, it doesn't detract from the fact that Burns is a quality fighter. I'd favour him pretty strongly on pts in this one

 

You can't just go around changing boxing history to satisfy your own ego. Whatever the official result was stands and that is that. No amount of romanticising will ever change that full on fact!!!

 

:huh So you want him to not only predict a fight but predict how three probably incompetent judges will score it themselves?

 

Why is that, when someone disagrees with certain posters (and I’m not targeting you specifically, it just happens you’ve done it), they trot out things like the above?

It’s either “You don’t know boxing” or “You’re not a true boxing fan”.

There’s something remarkably arrogant about either statement. What makes you a source of knowledge on the sport who can easily discern who is and isn’t “knowledgeable”? Adding IMO doesn’t change that fact.

And really, what evidence do we have that Broner is better than Burns? He lost to Ponce De Leon in reality and at the very best struggled to contain a small, slow and old version of the guy Juan Manuel Lopez got out of there in a round. He blitzed Litzau, but Litzau’s never been top of the tree anyway.

Burns has been treading water against weak opposition, but we’ve no real evidence to put one above the other. Sure he’s not a big puncher, but his workrate and variety might cause a cautious counter-puncher like Broner to shut down.

 

Yeah I agree it's a pretty arrogant statement but I don't apologise for that. Everything I write is my own opinion of course and if I'm proven to be wrong then big deal. I've been wrong plenty of times before now and will continue to be wrong.

It's just that from everything I've seen of both, Adrien Broner is quite clearly better than Ricky Burns. I want Burns to win and I won't take any joy or proclaim myself to be anything special by getting the outcome right, I just think it's silly how so many people think Burns wins. I really hope that's reflected in the betting odds.

 

Broner is fairly boring, and he's not very impressive at it either. It's not like he's a Calderon or a Mijares type who have such fluidity about them that they don't really have to take risks, they can just outsmart their opponents easily without making things too entertaining. Broner always seems on edge, he's not naturally boring, he just fights that way because he almost seems worried half the time. Superior boxers to him would exploit his deficiencies I think. Which is why he's lucky to be residing in a none too steller division.

He needs to loosen up, because I think he could be a really effective boxer-puncher as opposed to a tentative, uncomfortable looking counter-puncher. He's relying on his athletic gifts too much instead of building on them.

He's almost in the Devon Alexander mould in the way that he does that irritating shouting after every punch he throws, despite the fact that the vast majority don't land, it seems to make some people(including judges, it seems) think he's more accurate than he actaully is.

In reality, he gets spoken of as some kind of special talent but thus far he hasn't really shown anything yet to suggest that, getting an undeserved decision against a, granted, very much improved Ponce de Leon, but also one who was out of his natural weight class, and is extremely easy to beat to the the punch, doesn't exactly make me all that optimistic. The fact that he was at times getting well outboxed by DPDL is quite appalling for a supposed 'world class' fighter, 21 years old or not.

I don't particularly rate Litzau either, he's just a pretty average fighter all round, with a spoiling style and a poor chin. Broner caught him in the first and took him out, the manner in which he did it was impressive, but, contrary to what many believe, it wasn't against exactly stellar opposition to be blunt.

That said, I do think he probably has the mobility to beat Burns if the fight does in fact come off. Burns looks like he could be a light-welter, but Broner has actually fought at light-welter(as far as I know), so aside from slight height and reach advantages, I don't think there's a mass size disparity between them that favours Burns.

And I don't believe the slight advantage in length Burns has would give him any great benefit, as it will in all likelihood be Broner that circles, and he's not one who tries to measure range, more one to just throw fast punches in greater volume to his adversary and get out of there, he's too safety orientated IMO to just rush in and leave himself open. He isn't a particularly smart fighter, but I just think by virtue of the way he fights he could offset Burns' rhytym.

It'll be interesting to see what happens if/when this fight comes off anyways.

 

fana vs burns might be on

Simpson weds his long-term girlfriend Joanna in September but with a possible bout on the horizon on the Ricky Burns-Mzonke Fana undercard, he won't take his eye off the ball for a minute.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...raining-regime-during-wedding-86908-23333881/

 

I believe Burns is a very capable boxer not a fighter which maybe his down fall as Broner is very strong and can punch a bit . now I do admire ricky burns as he has proven he can mix it but has not got a ko punch in his locker so this reason I think he will be beaten by broner stoppage between 7-9 rounds . so I think his management should have tried for Fana asf e I feel ricky burns had a better chance of winning this fight rather than Broner . now billy I think you got believe your man can win as that your job to build up his ego and massage his ego into believing he can win which is fair play so its not personal and I wish ricky all the best and hopefully he proves me wrong good luck to ricky if it actually comes off

 

broner isnt that slick but is very fast. he has improved so much since i first saw him, MASSIVE stance wide looping shots which seemed to be (in watt voice) ARRRRM punches. and got the tko dude to swarming them out.

and not a great counterpuncher either.


but burns isnt much better in terms of technique and ability.


which is why i think this fight is ****ing fantatastic.

 

I think broner does carry some punching power and is strong but in the same breath I think ricky burns is more than capable of being a counter puncher my only concerns is ricky has no power to worry broner so he will have a lot more confidence but if billy could make ricky punch with power it could be a different outcome