Pacquiao doesnt deserve to be ranked nr1 P4P

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PowerHoock, Aug 11, 2011.


  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Margarito and Cotto are okay wins...Both fighters, especialy Cotto had shown signs of slowing, not bieng the same fighters they once were, but worse than that, both had gotten their asses brutally raped before he fought them.

    So did Forrest, Winky, DLH, and Mayweather.

    And Mayweather completely clowned him and took his soul, stuffed him in a coffin and closed it shut, even nailed it, Pac just added the last nail in the coffin. When Hatton nearly got KO by Lazcano, I knew Hatton was done, because had Lazacno been a year or two fresher, Hatton would have retired before Pac.

    Mayweather has arguably been down on a Flash KD ONCE. His boxing has goten more scientific with his age, he has a great jab, and reflexes like a cat, and is probably the best counter puncher in boxing right now. How is a man who arguably lost twice two an inferior counter puncher in Marquez maul a superior Mayweather?

    That does not make Pac the best ever..:lol:, in any other era, Maidana and this current version of Khan would simply be contenders.

    :lol: More like a ruined Morales went into a race against a sooped up opponent...In other words, do you remember a fighter by the name of Zahir Raheem?? What do you think about that? How about an old beaten Barrera going to war for a third time with Morales...Are you aware that the consensus in 2001 after the MAB-EM fight was that they left something in teh ring and werent the same fighters??

    Better late than never, but no one can deny he ducked Marquez...I find it interesting they finally go for Marquez now that he a billon years old, more flat footed and gets hit more.

    may as well retired an anorexic teeny bopper. Thats what DLH was that night. Oscar was a 5'11 35 year old athlete who had fought at 160+ in his previous fights, he had zero business coming in at 146 fight night. That win does nothing for Pac's legacy imo.

    Both these fighters would be good champs in other eras, but not the most dominant. They are both terribly flawed, they are great amongst their current peers, but you're completely out of control when you make comments like "The most skilled ever". Unfortunately or FORTUNATELY for both PBF and Pac, neither has opposition that is ATG and prime to really test what they are worth.

    We got Pac who lost to a shot Morales, was rocked by Larios, Solis, and a shot Barrera.

    Your post is the definition of Overrating current fighters. FFS, they fight in an era where a top 3 p4p champ was champ after a decade of fighting pro, won 1 champ fight, lost his next, and won one more, and lost almsot immediatley again. PW. :-(
     
  2. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what about Khan, Guerrero, Sergio? there are enough opponents for Pac to last for 2-3 years... and the've been around for a time now... he's not fighting the biggest threats... aka cherrypicker
     
  3. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan and Guerrero aren't threats numbnuts. Sergio is a ****ing middleweight. Tell Serg to fight people in his own weight-class.
     
  4. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they are threats... and Sergio can esily make weight to fight Pac... pac tucks his tail and hides...
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Since Cotto, his three victories have not been that great. If he was "Fighter X" and he was unranked going into the Clottey fight, and fought in exact fashion against Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley exactly as he did, he would be gaining no momentum, popularity, or ranking whatsoever.

    The Mosley win is the best of that bunch, followed by Clottey, and the Margarito win is a disgrace. Margarito was not one of the 250 best fighters when Pac fought him...
     
  6. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What weight? 154? Where Sergio rehydrates and outweighs pac by 20 pounds or so? Yeah. The last time Pac fought at 154 he weighed in at 145. He's barely big enough for welterweight. Tell chicken **** Floyd to fight Sergio, since he can actually make the weight.
     
  7. badassQatari

    badassQatari Active Member Full Member

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    to haters, he is
     
  8. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See idiotic right there.
    Your saying because he fought Dela Hoya and ODH and Martinez are the same size they should fight. Although Dela Hoya was more a Natural Welterweight but as older he was a great 154 fighter. Martinez you ****ing **** is a Natural 160 Guy. And from sources around the Boxing Community the ones in the Know Sergio like i said walks around 30 pounds heavier than Pacquiao.

    And if you knew anything about Boxing ANYTHING.
    You realize Pac still according to Roach could Make 140 easy. 140- 160

    Even if the great Sergio does a fight with Pac or Mayweather at 154 the highest you will see Pac get is 150 solid after rehydrating. But Martinez however after cutting weight would come into that fight around 160 plus after doing the same. Thats 10 pounds come fight night.

    You sir are a ****ing troll with classic case of ******ation.

    I think 147 is it for Pac i mean even on fight night he never weighs in at 146.8 or 147 its more like 143 solid.

    Heres a question if you feel he hasnt fought any fighters in there Prime.

    What was Barrera what was Cotto what was Marquez what was Solis what was Diaz.

    Now we all know some were past there Primes. But for the dickhead person that started this thread. In Boxing some great fighters Past there Primes are ****ing way better than most in there ****ing Division.

    Like Hatton he was still Past his Prime better than alll the 140 fighters. in fact he schooled a Prime Paulie Malignaggi when he was according to you Past Prime. The same Prime Paulie that schooled Juan Diaz. And Pacquiao nearly killed Hatton.

    Same could be said for Mosley a older version of Mosley is still better than a Prime Berto.

    Same as a Past Prime Cotto is still better then almost every Prime 154 fighter.

    So this Past Prime **** is ****ed.
     
  9. Critic

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    :lol:
     
  10. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why cant Martinez if he is man enough like he expects Pac to be why cant Sergio fight the best guys at 168. Bute, Ward, Froch etc. Whats stopping him doing that cos that whats he is asking Manny to do.
     
  11. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    don't insert logic into this thread.
     
  12. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ******* talking about logic...wow

    you guys are as rational as the taliban
     
  13. chicharoncuneta

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    and you are logical? log off you troll
     
  14. Jordan_Davies

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  15. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    :-( He fought Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Barrera, De la Hoya Morales, Marquez, Solis, Lucero.... He''s fighting a long and hard career. Please just stop....