Who do yer favour to beat Ray Robinson at Welterweight

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  1. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't favour anyone but I think Homicide Hank Armstrong and Mickey Walker could really unsettle him

    Thomas Hearns could well be beating him until getting stopped later on. he was too drained at welterweight to beat him over the distance
     
  2. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A few great ones, maybe one outta three bouts, at best.
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Wouldn't expect anyone to beat him at his best, and the same might be true for Middleweight. Monzon's the only guy I might slightly favor.
     
  4. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is an excellent question.

    I agree that no one should be favoured, although there are going to be fighters who are capable of pulling it off. IN fact one or two did actually pull it off on some scorecards, even some official scorecards (eg Marty Servo forced a split decision). So it is not impossible.

    If I were picking someone, i think i go with the young Bob Fitzsimmons. Although Welterweight titles were not really invented, Fitz did KO an all time great in the Non Pareil Jack Dempsey, at just 3 lbs over the limit. I think that this version, along with the won who dominated the aussie seen for years before this was a welterweight Fitzsimmons. He also had the power and strength to worry Ray.

    I think it has been shown that power can worry Ray. Fitz has an excellent chance to catch him knock him out, although Ray will not be easy to catch. theoretically this fight should look much like Corbett vs Fitz, but Ray did not hit anywhere near as hard as Corbett. And I am not sure who Fitz would correspond to in Rays opponents. Maybe a combination of a bigger hitting Artie Levine, or a harder hitting though perhaps lessactive Jake Lamotta. Both of whom caused Sugar Ray all sorts of trouble at Welterweight.
     
  5. Kalasinn

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    Hearns has a excellent chance to out-point SRR, if it's a 12 round bout.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. Armstrong!

    Armstrong! Active Member Full Member

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  10. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    I think Burley, if anyone, is probably the most obvious shout when you consider their history or lack thereof. Hard to say though. Maybe Walker too.

    Out of the group of fighters of whom I've seen plenty of footage (mainly post -WWII), Rodriguez would be my first pick. Griffith would have a good shot at taking at least one out of a trilogy too, I reckon.

    I've never really understood the Hearns pick. If there's one welter in history I wouldn't give Hearns much of a chance against, it's Robinson. Poison for him as far as I can see.
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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  12. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I don't FAVOUR anyone over him at 147. That's not to say a defeat isn't possible, but no, I do not favour any welterweight over him
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's right.

    Burley and Leonard would be the two guys I would line up against him if I had to.
     
  14. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    how was burley's welterweight resume? not really familiar with his pre-160 accomplishments
     
  15. teeto

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    Maybe a monumental effort from Mickey Walker would be interesting.