Joe Louis (Schmeling II) vs Joe Frazier (Ali '71)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by EverLast, Aug 16, 2011.


  1. EverLast

    EverLast Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,175
    6
    Oct 20, 2009
    This hypothetical match up has never really been delved into, in my memory, unless I have missed out on certain threads on here.

    How do you people see this panning out?

    Personally, I feel this would be an absolute war of a fight
     
  2. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,344
    297
    Jul 30, 2004
    Could be very good fight, probably ended by a very good Joe Louis KO of Frazier; but Louis had better not take too long doing it, or Frazier will turn Louis's steak into hamburger. I can't not like Louis in this one, though.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

    35,456
    10,439
    Jan 6, 2007
    I think Joe Louis is in for a decent test.

    But it's one he passes.

    By UD.
     
  4. EverLast

    EverLast Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,175
    6
    Oct 20, 2009
    Thing is, Louis was a great offensive fighter, but doesnt quite have the size advantage of a Foreman to shower out the smoke Joe would be putting on him....I have a feeling that prime Frazier would have a great shot at taking this
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,195
    26,470
    Feb 15, 2006
    I think that Louis would win, but if you get this match wrong, you likley get it wrong big time!
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    50,288
    23,248
    Jan 3, 2007
    Either man could have won on any given night. But I don't like Joe Louis's tendency to get tagged by the left hook, nor his discomfort for fighters who swarmed him and fought in a crouching position. In this particular case, he'd be facing one of the best heavy weight left hookers of all time, with ferocious power, fast handspeed and upper body movement that was off the charts for a heavyweight. A possible win for Louis, but probably a guy to best keep him away from.
     
  7. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,628
    30
    Feb 16, 2010
    One of Joe Louis' greatest strengths was his ability to control distance but this would be impossible against a swarmer of Smokin' Joe's calibre. Frazier would be on Louis from the opening bell and Louis' effectiveness would be diminished as he didn't like being pressured or fighting while going backwards...which was inevitable due to Frazier's relentless nature. Louis did possess an atg uppercut( kryptonite for Frazier) but he used it more as a finishing tool then as a weapon on the inside.

    Ultimately, the key to this matchup is that Frazier dealt with boxer-punchers FAR better than Louis could deal with pressure in any form. Not to mention Louis' disdain for infighting and Frazier's ability to impose his will on his opponents and make them fight his fight. With that said, I see both starting slowly but Louis would be uncomfortable from rd1. Frazier starts smokin' around the 3-4th round and ends it in the 6th.
     
  8. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

    2,667
    21
    Feb 13, 2011
    Joe Louis shatters some glass after landing a few uppercuts.Actually,a more realistic result would be Louis winning via forfeit,as Frazier would still be stuck in his dressing room,literally shitting himself at the prospect of fighting such a dangerous puncher.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,195
    26,470
    Feb 15, 2006
    ?????????????????????????????????????????
     
  10. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,628
    30
    Feb 16, 2010
    :desk:patsch:desk:patsch...must be a joke post so I won't even respond.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

    35,456
    10,439
    Jan 6, 2007
    :-(
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

    19,654
    52
    Jan 19, 2010
    I can see a Louis from the Godoy I fight getting solidly outworked.

    I can also see Louis from Godoy II bashing Frazier to pieces.
     
  14. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

    19,654
    52
    Jan 19, 2010
    edit: double post
     
  15. Armstrong!

    Armstrong! Active Member Full Member

    1,008
    3
    Jun 10, 2011
    :blood