Purses for Kessler and Stieglitz.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BatTheMan, Aug 17, 2011.


  1. blue_87

    blue_87 Quebec newbie Full Member

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    Andrade kicked Bute's ass in the 8th and almost ko'ed him. 15 more seconds and Bute would be on the floor. This round still driving me, you know after this round that it wouldn't be an ordinary night.

    Chu un gros amateur de Bute, mais revoir le round ;) Jean Paul Chartrant est tellement en admiration dans le combat qu'il oublie complétement de commenter et a aucune forme d'objectivité.

    Bute started to show some big sign of fatigue in that round, I watched that round several time and it's still something to watch!!
     
  2. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    What being a ex champion has to do with it. He was WBA and WBC champion. They fight for the WBO. And could you post the WBO rule that say something about 40% ?:huh
     
  3. pasarica

    pasarica Member Full Member

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    What if Kessler will lose to Stieglitz? I see that noone takes this into consideration, but I think that Stieglitz can pull the upset. Kessler is shot! ! Mark my words.
     
  4. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    here the WBO rules:
    http://www.wbo-int.com/revised/WBO_Rules_Regulations.pdf

    go check page 13 at section 13 (at the bottom of the page):

    "In fights for the Title between the Champion and the Mandatory Challenger held in the country of origin, residence or nationality of the Champion, the Champion shall receive 75% of the purse and the Challenger shall receive the remaining 25%."

    In the page 14:

    "In fights for the title held in any other country, the Champion shall receive 80% of the purse and the Challenger shall receive the remaining 20%."

    Nothing says that a promoter cannot give more money to his boxer on the side, but in this case, the fight had to go to a purse bid and the fight is happening in Dannemark so the challenger (Kessler in this case) will receive 20% of the purse.
     
  5. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If that happened (I dont think it will) Kessler would have forfeited a lot of money for a belt that he didnt even receive at the end. I guess that even then Froch would want a rematch so it will be ok if Kessler win again or at least look very good, but it will hurt Kessler a lot and depending of how he feel with his eyes, he might want to retire.
     
  6. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No ****ing way are those figures right
     
  7. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    look at my post for the WBO rules just 2 post before yours and in fact in a 5M$ total purse, Kessler will only keep 1M$.
     
  8. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way its a 5M dollar purse
     
  9. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont know, I was making an exemple. I thought you were talking about what Kessler or Steiglitz got from the purse.

    The total numbers have been given by Danish poster as you saw.
     
  10. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The numbers are BS. Abraham, Froch and Kessler jumped at the chance to make 1M a fight in the Showtime Super 6 so no way this is a 5M purse
     
  11. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It seems a lot I agree, but (not trying to say that people here are lying) I think that Kessler fans dont like too much the path Kessler chose, so it maybe a little bit higher or something to "dont loose the face", but really I dont know.
     
  12. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's wrong with those figures?
     
  13. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kinda like how you said Wladimir would lose his belt when Haye stepped up right.
     
  14. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are people on this forum stupid or were they just dropped on their heads as babies!?!?!


    Lets run through this ok. Business 101 since so many seem not to have grasped sports economics....


    Belts = Money.

    Kessler has no belt. Stieglitz does.

    Kessler wants the fight in Denmark so pays more.

    Stieglitz knows he will lose; so wants more money.

    Stieglitz can make 10x in this fight what he'd make fighting 10 bums with the belt.

    Kessler is happy to pay more money to get the belt and secure greater future earnings.

    Stiegeiltz is happy to lose the belt and get rich.

    It's simple economics people. It's called INVESTMENT. Warr*n Buffet does it. Charles Schwab does it.


    I know the mods will probably ban me for making this post but **** me some people can't think for themselves if it's not on CNN their brains just cannot cope and shut down!
     
  15. Jan(DK)

    Jan(DK) Joined april 2007 Full Member

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    Laffie: Please read my post again, and remember to read between the lines...:blood

    WISHES:
    Kessler has 3-4 fights left in him. If Butes wants him to come to Canada, the purse offer should be as high as the next 3-4 fights combined earnings......that didn't happen...........:-(

    REALTIES:
    Kessler therefor wants to fight Stieglitz, who probably also has 3-4 fights left in him, in Denmark, the purse offer is 1 mill for Kessler and 3 mill for Stieglitz........:think

    Get it......................????