Who's really the master, ariza or roach ???

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  1. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    furthermore, without Ariza's power shakes, emmanuel would have stayed at his prime of getting his AZZ kicked by eric and juan
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Roach has taken Khan from someone who got KTFO by Breidis Presscot and never beat anyone serious to a world champ with wins over Barrera, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Maidana and Judah.

    tell me Roach sucks? that it's only Ariza... LMAO

    As for Pac, if you think it's just speed, power, and angles then you don't know shiiiiiiet.

    Roach #1 trainer of his generation and 2nd best trainer of all time.
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Blackburn, Soldier Jones, Harry Wiley, Ray Arcel, Emmanuel Steward, Eddie Futch, Angelo Dundee, Cus, etc all top that AZZ.
     
  4. LatinKing416

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    ariza is nothing but a towel holder
     
  5. Prince.

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    i dunno about you but i find that kind of endearing... the way he taps his gloves and the way he just stood near the ropes for a few breathers regardless of marcos upercutting him like hell. it's good that he looks up 2 some1 like Manny... both have religion behind them and skill. But yes Manny is far more better than Amir.... Amir hasn't reached his prime yet... he's still learning and understanding with every match.... who knows what 147 will do to him. Manny has 1-2 years in the tank so i doubt both stablemates will fight each other.

    But i do agree with you both Manny and Amir have 'god given talent' and to Roach's benifit he utilised that.... see there is a huge diff to the Khan who fought Prescott (under the guidance of the Jorge Rubio) to the Khan who fought Judah. And people used 2 criticise Manny for being a one-handed fighter in his early days now he can throw with both; roach was prob instrumental in this. :smoke

    What say?
     
  6. RedHots

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    Ariza has no real resume yet. Pac is ****** Fortune's project, and Ariza's job is simply not to screw up what Fortune has built.
     
  7. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he turned khan from a brawler to a boxer puncher
     
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    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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  9. Thaiad24

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    who gives a ****, its a great combo that works well

    khan got rid of ariza for the mckloskey fight and looked gassed out , the next fight with ariza he looked alot better

    Roach is a great trainer and ariza is a great conditioner, thats about it i can say really
     
  10. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think that would be the case at all. Before Ariza PAC showed improvement...beating MAB and JMM and even Erik were all before Ariza came on board. Now....moving up in weight and still keeping his speed, power and dexterity are all attributed to Ariza's work and expertise in putting together tailored programs to get his clients bodies in the best possible condition for boxing.
     
  11. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    exactly my point
     
  12. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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