Who can defeat Jon Jones?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Anarchy99, Sep 2, 2011.


  1. Stoo

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    That's a very good point, Machida has to dictate the range. But I dont like the way he drops his hands when turning his hips over with his leg/body kicks with Jones' reach knowledge and they are his longest stikes. Every time he throw more than one punch he widens his stance to a karate hips square and wide base which leaves him flat footed. He also drops his hands on the way out of range too

    Shogun took advantage of this, and Machida seemed unsure of himself in the Page fight, timidity like that will cost him, as Jones is pretty good at closing the distance for a strike, clinch or take down and it will take more than potshotting to remedy this imo
     
  2. dranon

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  3. MetalMandible

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    Yes, the top guys can all beat Bonnar. Only one of them has handled him like that and that goes for all the other also-rans that Jones smoked. Sure, they weren't tip-top competition but he OBLITERATED them like no one else has. And if you really think that Mousasi, who has the takedown defense of a ****ing landmine victim, has a better chance than Machida who can actually stop a shot, then you have put the cherry on top of the "leukaemiaHUG is a delusional ****" cake. Jones isn't unbeatable, there just doesn't appear to be a fighter with the tools to implement the right gameplan, at the moment.

    Nog's Chin is ****, his boxing is nowhere near tight enough to hang with the K-1 elite, particularly since he's slower than **** and moves like a sloth. He'd be obliterated and anyone who knows fighting knows this. If you can watch a guy lumber across the ring like Frankenstein, hands at his waist and head stock-still, throwing loopy punches like he's swimming in jello and you think he could beat even those Glass Jawed Jokes, you're a complete ****ing idiot.

    As for calling a helpline for suicide.....:lol::rofl:patsch If I have a mental issue it certainly isn't anything like self-hate or depression because I'm far too narcissistic for that!:nut If anything, I'm sociopathic because I really would find it funny if a dumb **** like you offed himself because I suggested it on a forum. That would be the ultimate example of Darwinism in action.:lol:
     
  4. rokurota

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    i think rampage can do it with a little luck. rashad seems to have gotten way better, i think he has a pretty good shot at beating him as well.

    if gegard and machida can keep it standing then they would chainsaw massacre jon jones, but i doubt gegard could, machida would be a very interesting fight though.

    i have a feeling phil davis is hiding a very fragile chin, but if he isnt then he could also beat jon jones.

    depending on how roger gracie does against king mo, i would give him a chance too. i would love to see jj take him down and then **** his pants a minute later when he realizes what he has gotten himself into. i think jon jones' stand up is just sloppy and bad at this point in time, not good enough to avoid playing rogers game yet.
     
  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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  6. Amrn4s

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    Idk in my opinion, anyone who takes out Jones' legs will have a great chance to beat him. Either that dump him on his head. If Jones was a heavyweight Velazques would take him out. No doubt in my mind.
     
  7. rokurota

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    hong man choi's freakish height is the only reason badr hari exposed himself and got tagged.

    nog would not have the same advantage, it is ****ING ******ED to say that a guy like nog could do what spong, ignashov, aerts and sefo failed to do.

    badr hari is a bad mother****er in k-1.
     
  8. MistoGators

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    Matt Hamill disagrees with this thread.
     
  9. rokurota

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    yeah, that HMC.

    also, you are dumb as ****. why dont you do us a favor go learn how to "throw a decent punch" and commit suicide by badr hari.
     
  10. PivotPunch

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    There are many MMA fighters who could do very well in K-1. Rampage was 2002 able to beat Cyril Abidi 2 times and today his boxing is much much better.
     
  11. Beouche

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    As ive said many times, only Anderson stands a chance of beating the heavyweight freak who fights at 205

    He'll clean out 205 then we'll see him in some real fights with the likes of Cain and JDS
     
  12. MetalMandible

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    Just what I thought, a dumb**** who looks at Fight Finder and relies on statistics rather than fight analyzation to base his assumptions.

    Yes, Jones and Coleman did beat Bonnar by the same score (on two of the cards). Did you watch both fights and notice the difference? Coleman won two rounds by laying on Bonnar and landing one good elbow that cut him up. Jones beat the **** out of him for two rounds like no one before or since, and ended up gassing in the third. Also, the gas is obviously no longer an issue since he had little trouble maintaining the blistering pace of ass whooping that he set against Shogun.

    Secondly, Gusmao was dominated from bell-to-bell and if there any
    reason that Soszynski was able to finish him it was because he was damaged goods after that beating. Jake O'Brien getting beat up and submitted in two is more impressive than him sticking his head into a guillotine for Mousasi. If you think Tito landing what was obviously a fluke punch was more impressive than Jones doing basically the same thing minus the ******ed upperhook, then you're stretching.

    Jones beats dudes in more impressive fashion than anyone else. He does things that no one else does, he has physical gifts that the rest are lacking, and every part of his game improves in every fight. I'm not a fan of fighters and I don't watch to blow them like so many here do. I watch as a completely nonbiased observer and when I see Jones I see a talent of a level which I haven't seen in MMA before. It's not the statistics or the resume, it's just that he has that "it" factor that tells you he's special.

    Mousasi isn't the guy to beat him. If you think he's so dangerous off of his back why did he get wrestled****ed by Mo? The guy is like so many of the Euro bums plying their trade in Japan. He's got a few tools, a few holes, but he looks better than he is because he's feasting on subpar competition. A guy that couldn't put Glass Jawdine out isn't going to do **** to Jones whether he can stay standing or not.

    HMC is about as fast as Nog but he can actually punch. Nog has KOed exactly two people in over ten years of fighting. He's a feather fister and he wouldn't do **** in K-1, that is IF he was stupid enough to even try.