How does Pacquiao hold up against the classics? ( Prime )

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  1. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Classics:
    Vs. Hearns (147)
    Vs. Leonard (147)
    Vs. Duran (147)
    Vs. Armstrong (147)
    Vs. Tzsyu (140)
    Vs. Mosley (140) ( PRIME)
    Vs. Wright (154)
    Vs. Trinidad (147)
    Vs. Whitaker (140)
    Vs. R. Mayweather (140) :)lol:)
    Vs. Chavez Sr. (140)
    Vs. Napoles (147)
    Vs. M. Taylor (147)

    A lot of these fights get discussed. Lets KO them all at once! Who wins?
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Hearns KO Pacquiao - Brutal KO
    Leonard KO Pacquiao - Leonard hurts him, finishes him late after widely outboxing him.
    Duran UD Pacquiao - Just the better boxer. Combinations and defensive savvy win it for Duran.
    Armstrong UD Pacquiao - Close fight, Armstrong outworks Pac to a decision. He would get close, and throw more on the inside.
    Pacquiao TKO Tzsyu - Pacquaio with relative ease, Kostya is overrated.
    Pacquiao UD Mosley - Just the better fighter. Mosley not really established at 140 either
    Pacquiao UD Wright - Activity would trouble Wright IMO. Wierd styles clash though. Winky blows hot and cold.
    Trinidad KO Pacquiao - Too much power, Pac hasn't got the necessary defence to avoid the big shots. Late KO.
    Whitaker UD Pacquiao - No brainer IMO. Whitaker takes a clear UD.
    Pacquiao KO Mayweather - Joke fight.
    Pacquiao UD Chavez - Would be hard, but I think Pac has the speed and durability to outwork and defeat Chavez (will get slack for this).
    Napoles - Not qualified to comment
    M. Taylor? Who's that? Meldrick? If so - Pacquaio by KO.
     
  3. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Hearns - Hearns TKO
    Leonard - Leonard UD
    Duran - Pac UD
    Armstrong - limited visual evidence for me
    Tszyu - Pac UD or late TKO
    Mosley - Pac UD
    Wright - Wright UD
    Trinidad - Pac - UD
    Whitaker - pickem fight
    R Mayweather - Pac TKO
    Chavez Sr - Pac UD
    Napoles - not sure
    M Taylor - Pac UD /late TKO
     
  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearns knocks him out.
    Leonard embarrass him for 12 founds.
    Duran shatters his glass belly.
    Pac knocks out armstrong
    Pac UD Tzsyu.
    Pac UD mosley.
    Wright schools Pac.
    Trinidad UD Pac.
    Whitaker schools pac.
    Pac knocks out Roger.
    Pac stops Chavez Sr.
    Pac beats Napoles.
    Pac beat Taylor.
     
  5. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Loses to Hearns and Leonard
    50/50 against Duran, Armstrong, Whitaker and Chavez Sr.
    Wins against the rest
     
  6. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    This. Except I also think he's 50/50 against Wright and Napoles too.
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Gets stopped by Hearns
    Gets stopped by Leonard
    Gets stopped by Duran
    Gets stopped by Armstrong
    Beats Tszyu by stoppage
    Gets stopped by Mosley
    Gets decisioned by Wright
    Beats Trinidad
    Gets SCHOOLED by Pernell
    Gets a tight decision over Julio
    Gets DESTROYED by Napoles
    Don't know who wins the Taylor fight
     
  8. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Thats a very strange list of classics.
     
  9. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vs. Hearns (147) He gets knocked out cold
    Vs. Leonard (147) He loses a clear decision in an exciting fight
    Vs. Duran (147) The Duran that beat SRL would win a close decision
    Vs. Armstrong (147) He stops Armstrong
    Vs. Tzsyu (140) He wins a clear decision
    Vs. Mosley (140) ( PRIME) Toss up
    Vs. Wright (154) He wins a decision just because of his workrate while looking awful
    Vs. Trinidad (147) Toss up
    Vs. Whitaker (140) He loses a wide decision
    Vs. R. Mayweather (140) :)lol:) Roger lands a few good shots but gets starched
    Vs. Chavez Sr. (140) Toss up
    Vs. Napoles (147) He wins a close decision
    Vs. M. Taylor (147) He stops Taylor late while behind on points
     
  10. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Who do you have in these fights? :think

    I personally don't think Pacquiao stops Armstrong. 2 KO losses in 180-something fights, one being in his first pro bout, and the other coming to a great (and tough fighter) in Zivic suggests to me that he could definetely take Pacquaio's shots.
     
  11. Money7

    Money7 The Best Full Member

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    Vs. Hearns (147) - Hearns by KO
    Vs. Leonard (147) - Leonard by KO
    Vs. Duran (147) - Duran by KO
    Vs. Armstrong (147) - Armstrong by UD
    Vs. Tzsyu (140) - Pac by KO
    Vs. Mosley (140) ( PRIME) - Mosley by KO
    Vs. Wright (154) - Wright by UD
    Vs. Trinidad (147) - Pac by UD
    Vs. Whitaker (140) - Whitaker by UD
    Vs. R. Mayweather (140) :)lol:) - Black Mamba by BRUTAL KO ( :lol: )
    Vs. Chavez Sr. (140) - Pac by TKO
    Vs. Napoles (147) - Pac by UD
    Vs. M. Taylor (147) - Pac by TKO
     
  12. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He never fought anybody as fast and explosive as Pac. A sharp punch that you don't see coming does more damage than a heavy one.

    Ain't no way Pac stops Chavez Sr, I'd bet my left nut on it.
     
  13. Money7

    Money7 The Best Full Member

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    when i say TKO, it have pac stopping JCC due to bad cuts... :deal :good
     
  14. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    But he did fight guys at least as heavy handed as Pacquaio, and even some guys who arguably hit harder than Manny (more suited to the weight, had styles based on power punching). Remember Armstrong was a guy who would, quite often (though not overly frequently) take one to give one, and against hard punchers he would take heavy shots to dish out his own. I have no doubt that he took harder, cleaner shots than Pacquiao could give. That's a reason why I don't think Pacquiao would stop him. I don't think Pac hits a lot harder than guys who leathered Hank and couldn't move him.

    Also, I rate Henry Armstrongs durablility significantly higher than Miguel Cotto's and Manny Pacquaio took nearly 12 to finish a guy who was far less durable than Armstrong, suggesting to me that Armstrong would take that Pacquiao the distance.

    Plus a prime Sugar Ray Robinson (>>>>Pac, also a superb combination puncher with forceful power, oh yeah and he's arguably the GOAT) went the distance with a probably past prime Armstrong. So I have a feeling that Henry would go the distance with the Pac man ;).
     
  15. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    If I don't think he beats Duran I wouldn't take him to beat Armstrong either. Not essentially the same fight but they both fit the pressure swarmer mould with a solid punch and good defence. I don't think Manny has the infighting skills to beat either but he is a ******* to get to on the inside and hes developed into quite the counterpuncher at mid-range. They would get there though and take rounds. I think both would ground him down with body shots and we'd see a TKO or RTD win.

    I think from that list he beats...Tszyu. I'd pick Mosley at 140 as I'm not of the opinion Junior weights make that much difference than fighting at the actual upper weight itself, that being said I can see a lot of people crying at that choice. I think he beats both Roger and Chavez, Roger very early, Chavez probably lasts the distance. I think he'd beat Taylor pretty handily at 147. Napoles is a class above at 147, that being said I think people on Classic would slaughter me for not mentioning Napoles' paper skin. It pains me to pick against Napoles no matter who he faces.