Stamina is it genetic?

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  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    give this a try and tell me what you think

    its from the ross training website, you do the entire thing with NO rests, it only takes 10 minutes total, replace pull ups with jumpe rope if needed.

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    • Burpees x 60 seconds
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    • Squats x 60 seconds
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    • Burpees x 45 seconds
    • Pull-ups x 45 seconds
    • Squats x 45 seconds
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    • Burpees x 30 seconds
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    • Burpees x 15 seconds
    • Pull-ups x 15 seconds
    • Squats x 15 seconds
    • Pushups x 15 seconds
     
  2. Nwil

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    dam, thats intense. I might try that today.
     
  3. willnav

    willnav New Member Full Member

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    I would add:

    Juan Diaz, Paul Williams, Sam Soliman
     
  4. inchpunch

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    Like any athletic ability, stamina is determined by genetic potential and an athlete's ability to release that potential to the max through training and lifestyle. It's not just muscle fiber, it's the number of mitochondria, oxygen transport capacity, acid buffering. That's why talent matters a lot in endurance sports. Mark Allen, the greatest triathlete of all time, actually trained less than others, because he ws injury prone, yet he ran a 2:40 marathon in an ironman triathlon. Haile Gebrselassie, the greatets distance runner of all time, trains no more than other runners, but if you watch him run, he seems from another world. Boxing fans should realize that roadwork can bring a fighter to his stamina potential, but not beyond. That's why someone like Pavlik will always have better stamina than Taylor.
     
  5. Zerwas1

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    What's the highest punch output from Floyd Mayweather in a fight? Does he really have endless stamina?
     
  6. dragosuhail

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    everything ultimately comes down the genetics.

    what you do with your default genetics is up to you.

    take floyd for example. genetically gifted but works his ass off and takes nothing for granted therefore his stamina is surreal.

    also it's genetic that some people are more prone to nerves, tension etc while fighting/sparring. hence why a fattie like toney can go so far because he's so calm, he can conserve a lot of energy.

    seriously as much as it might **** some hardcore gym rats out there who believe it's all about willpower etc. it's really not. you need to be "talented" in the physical sense and then take it from there.

    i remember taking art painting lessons and because im naturally talented (which apparently i got from my grandfather) i ended up going from nothing to painting better than my teacher who was 50 and been doing it for years while i was only 13 and never practiced at all. where as my teacher would paint every day trying to perfect his skills. but he simply could not find a way to paint with more precision and flair.

    also i was drawing really well with zero training. i just saw some things as a little kid and did some stuff that my uni art teachers couldn't do. and again, i never practice or spend a lot of time doing this stuff.

    sport is exactly the same. you need to be born with all the tools. strong lungs, reflexes, boxing IQ, speed, power.

    everyone's heard the phrase: "punchers are born, not made." well that also applies to any other catagory in the sport.

    hell, im not atheletic but i got to a point where i trained 3 hours a day and i was really fit. yet sparring used to exhust me heaps. then funnyily enough i stopped training religiously and tried sparring with a mate who is a fanatical tae kwon do 4th dan black belt, and i swear he lives exercise and training yet he was tiring way before me, and im now a little soft in the midsection!

    so really, people should just be realistic about their limits and accept them.
     
  7. dragosuhail

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    you put it way more concisely than i could :thumbsup
     
  8. Haye

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    I would say, yes, stamina is genetic. You either got it or you aint. Not wanting to sound boastful, but my stamina, and more importantly the stamina of my three brothers and sister has always been really good. All five of us have always excelled in long distance running as well as sprinting. We have always won the long distance races in school and done very well in the regional events. And given that only me and one of my brothers ever did any serious training and was particularly sporty I would have to say that stamina is in the family.

    Some people, however athletically gifted and trained always have stamina problems.
     
  9. maracho

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    Genetic, mental, spiritual, and Environmental stimuli. On a side note, some athletes who have suffered asthma for years but kept on pushing become beastly wirlwinds after the allergin(s) were removed--sort of like vanderlei Silva and his seemingly silly snorkal workout.
     
  10. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    RJJ was never know for having good stamina. He was none to take rounds off because of it.
     
  11. Relentless

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    having a snorkel is just silly, in my gym they make us put on our gumsheilds and make us keep our mouth closed while we only breath through our noses during intense drills.
     
  12. maracho

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    Like I said anyone practicing with any type of inhibition be it a snorkal or whatever will often be better adapted once that inhibition is removed.

    Breathing through the nose is even better for performance so thats not actually inhibiting plus it gets you in the habit of better jaw protection. http://breathing.com/articles/nose-breathing.htm

    Hmm even knowledge plays an important role toward one's stamina:lol:
     
  13. maracho

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    adapting your body for stamina also includes repititious workouts reletive to your type of performance. For instance, sparing, practicing jabs etc will adapt your body and even relieve your lungs and other organs when performing.

    However there are some great exercises totaly unrelated to boxing that in my opinion are best for the lungs including jumping excersises like touching toes and finger tips in mid air. I might incorporate these into the Ross excersizes above.

    even a disciplined and diligent personality plays a role toward stamina
     
  14. Relentless

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    but usually it is harder to go at an intense pace when you have a snorkel or a gumshield in your mouth, so i dont really see the point.
     
  15. maracho

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    Well I wouldnt use it either but was just trying to stress a point