I'm not sure that this is true. From what I've seen, the demographics with the lowest rates of military service (urban middle and upper-middle class professionals on the Northeast and West coasts) are also among the least likely to support wars. The groups you criticize as jingoistic are also more likely to have relatives who've fought in wars. In response to the Ali draft dispute specifically, the pattern described above (more exposure = more support) held in the 1960's as well, except that the two groups divided along age lines rather than geographic ones. Older people had experienced WWII, and many had fought in it. Younger people hadn't. With that being said, I don't know whether the trend holds internationally. PS: On the thread topic -- Bob shouldn't have hit his wife. PPS: I don't drink whiskey, whisky, or any other spelling thereof.
Actually, everyone in the know is aware that Whiskey is a type of beer in the truest sense of the word.
Few things are funnier than some idiot patron at the bar trying to be cool, ordering a depth charge for the first time, and having their teeth broken when the shot glass slides down the emptying mug onto the tooth enamel because they didn't have the sense to protect their choppers when chugging it down. (A close second are the morons who attempt to down a flaming shot without first extinguishing the flame, especially funny when said nincompoop has facial hair.)
Burt,you and I have disagreed once or twice,but we've always been fine with each other.I've nothing but respect for you,your insights and your opinions:good
I think the bottom line is that most people in the front line of wars that have lost relatives, would indeed be anti-war. Maybe some pro-war Americans encourage their children to sign up and sacrifice their lives are pro war and happy to lose their children? Plenty aren't, and those that are, are worthless as parents in my opinion PS I won't disrespect any man from staying away from the drink, it's a very admirable stance
Oh, I got that what was said about Burt may have been intended as a joke, but it was completely unprompted, very disrespectful, and in poor taste and judgment, like Kanye West at awards ceremonies and Faith Hill's supposedly comedic upstaging of Carrie Underwood's winning a CMA over her a few years back. Not knowing how a post is going to be received before you submit it is something of a crap shoot, yes, but some self restraint and good sense does need to be exercised. (I hesitate to say "common sense," because as Thoreau wrote in the conclusion of Walden, "Why level downward to our dullest perception always, and praise that as common-sense? The commonest sense is the sense of men asleep, which they express by snoring.")
Maybe. There are plenty of multi-generational military families who aren't particularly anti-war. (Though they're not warmongers, either). A lot of it comes down to cultural differences. Some groups (and people) accept war more than others, regardless of whether they've experienced it or not. You might say that hippies and Yanomamo stand on a continuum of acceptance of violence, with most groups somewhere in the middle. :good
Bob shouldn't have kicked, threw bottles at, or otherwise harmed no woman. There are three posters on this thread who should be kicked, cracked with bottles, and otherwise harmed often. Sure, they're cowards who would sit in a corner with their mouths shut if this forum took place in a conference hall. But Burt should take another look at the imbeciles who give him a hard time -enemies like them distinguish him.
No. My mouth gets me trouble often, as I don't accept any shite. I'm a big guy too, so that attracts attention (typical of the Central Belt in Scotland, 'neds' like to take on the big guy to prove their worth). I might not be quite as harsh - and to be fair, I wouldn't go out of my way to verbally abuse an elderly man. People like you though, I'd definitely speak up if you were being as pretentious as you act on here.
Aye fair play. I don't act the whisky buff though. I'm only 22, and at the moment I only drink when I'm going out/socially, or occasionally I have a few beers at home to chill out after work. I just find it weird that a guy who is around the same age as me (in a country where he will have only recently attained legal permission to purchase and consume booze) is a whiskey buff. All power to the weird **** though!