Mayweather was justified - heres why...

unprofessionalism begets unprofessionalism.

 

Welcome to esb. No one is going to listen to you because you are making sense and you are not against Floyd. Good luck

 

Masters

Seriously, having not gone on forums for 6 months, I can tell you one thing. The real world, and forums are completely different places.

I seriously wouldn't waste time trying to justify common sense, to a load of guys who just come on here as they like arguing............

Dan Raphael called Floyd's performance "perfection". Kevin Iole called it "thrilling" and "majestic"

That's all you need to know about how the real world is taking it

 

Truth is:

He head butted the guy.

Then kept hugging and kissing him, like an idiot, delaying the start.

Floyd tried to touch gloves, and he still wasn't willing to fight. Still messing about

Cortez had enough, and clearly restarted it.

Ortiz was still not ready, acting like a prima donna

Floyd made him pay.

End

 

i think this is lost on so many people

 

And if he tried it again he would be punished further or even disqualified. I think this is fact is lost on so many people.

 

Then you do not need the referees at all.

They should just do away with point deductions and instaed, if you suffered a cut due to intentional headbutt, they should stop the fight temporarily and allow the offended party to headbutt also in a controlled manner almost to the same force as the initial headbutt.

 

Cortez did say, "Let's go," and motioned the fighters together. At that point, it was game on and protect yourself at all times. Ortiz had already hugged and touched on two separate occasions before that, so there was no reason to do so once more. He should have protected himself at all times. Failing to do so was his fault. True May could have been more sportsmanlike, but he wasn't obligated to do so. It's boxing. You are there to fight, not hug. May actually had a surprised look on his face when Ortiz went to hug again as if to say, "What are you doing? He said let's go and moved his hands together. It's time to fight, you idiot." So in hindsight, I don't think it was Cortez's fault, but Ortiz for not protecting himself and assuming May wouldn't be really angry after getting hit with an intentional head butt.

Both Mayweather and Ortiz had extensive amateur careers. Floyd in the Olympics and Oritz fought in the Olympic Trials. I saw Ortiz win the National PAL in 2002. Even in the amateurs, boxers know that you only touch gloves well before the fight starts, but that once the bell rings it is game on and you don't touch gloves, and if you reach out to touch and the other guy hits you, it is your fault for not protecting yourself. Yes even in the amateurs. So Ortiz should have known. Why was he so determined to kiss and hug three times? At some point it is fight back on, and after two previous apologies and the ref saying let's go and stepping back, Ortiz should have known the fight was back on again and needed to protect himself at all times.

 

yes, it's much better to wait for someone to maim you hoping for a point deduction :-(

 

Yes.

I don't watch a lot of boxing, but I've never quite seen the "launching" head butts Ortiz demonstrated.

Very well might have got away with it too. Who knows?

 

But he punched him during the 'ceremony of apology'. That's a big nono.

You can't just interrupt the

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Mayweather can be justified for hitting, and Ortiz can be justified to some extent for not protecting himself.

Why? Because Cortez ****ed up pretty bad. He didn't make it clear whether the fight had resumed or not.

 

:rofl

 

Why was he so determined to kiss and hug three times? At some point it is fight back on, and after two previous apologies and the ref saying let's go, motioning them together and then stepping back, Ortiz should have known the fight was back on again and needed to protect himself at all times. Why did he want to kiss and hug a third time?

I think the kid is some sort of weird head case. Flagrantly intentionally headbutting and then practically wanting to make love afterwards. This is the guy who during the Maidana fight retired and said he doesn't deserve to get beat up and would have to think about continuing with his career. What the hell? It is boxing. What does he think they pay him all that big money to fight for, tiddly winks and soft touches? They pay you well to risk getting beat up. Imagine Rocky Marciano saying that. Seems like a bully front runner mentality to me, rather than a true passion for combat. That same mentality is what explains why a frustrated Ortiz intentionally headbutted. This is someone with a previous disqualification loss, so he is known to lose his head. He thought it would be a lot easier, but it wasn't. He was missing a lot, only landing grazing blows, and Mayweather was sharpshooting him with solid well timed lightning shots, and I think Ortiz saw the writing on the wall when he threw a hard flurry with Mayweather on the ropes and he couldn't land solidly and Mayweather just smiled at him, like "I own you." So he head butted. But then he wanted to make it up to the guy who was giving him his biggest payday, and wanted to show the world that he wasn't really just a street thug whose weak character just got exposed again.

Kid grew up dirt poor and never dreamed he would make so much money. It was like he won the lottery even after getting knocked out. He wanted his payday and he got it, so he went away with all smiles. Just imagine great fighters of the past going away happy after being knocked out.