Who hit harder ? Bert Cooper or Mike Tyson ?

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield was floored by Cooper , not by Tyson , he fought Cooper once and Tyson twice.
    I heard that Oliver McCall claimed that Bert Cooper hit him harder than Mike Tyson.
    As much as I want to get Cooper vs. Norris , I couldn't get it , but I currently take it as it was a legitimate stoppage of Cooper over Norris , or maybe not ? was it the beginning of Norris' knee problem ? Tyson's outcome vs. Norris however , as it listed and as it should be , is not a stoppage , but rather a no contest.
    However , Bert Cooper didn't stop David Jaco , but Tyson did.
    Same with Carl Williams and Reggie Gross , whom actually stopped Cooper .
    Cooper floored Henry Tillman twice , but had to settle for a decision victory , whereas Tyson stopped him.
    An important factor to take into consideration , is that Tyson hit his opponents with elbows , which magnified the damage he managed to inflict , in contrast to Cooper , whom as far as I (currently) know , was a clean fighter. More explicitly and specifically it means : elbows are harder than legitimate punches.
     
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    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    indeed.
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    what matters is who could hit elite fighters harder. cooper never stopped an elite fighter so Tyson wins this hands down. There are gym-fighters out there who can hit a heavy bag as hard as ernie shavers but they wont catch a decent amatuer on the chin with their punch so long as they have a hole in their arse.
     
  5. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Cooper hits harder than Tyson.
     
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  6. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cooper may hit harder than Tyson, but hey bert, join the queue
     
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  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a bit weird to read such a thing on this board and even a bit weirder coming from you. Not that I have any disagreement with this.
     
  8. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Tyson hit harder......it,s close though
     
  9. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your probably still hurt over the other thread :good

    What i meant was, So what if Bert Cooper hit harder than Tyson, so did lots of other guys.

    Being a hard hitter dont really mean ****, just ask Earnie Shavers and Razor Ruddock
     
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  10. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Sir Bert Cooper was an animal who hit like a Mack Truck.

    Check out his brutal KO1 over Joe Savage, who was 42-0 undefeated bare-knuckle champion of Great Britian! :scaredas:
     
  11. Hookie

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    The results vs. common opponents have nothing to do with power. Tyson was more skilled... even if Cooper hit twice as hard, Tyson would have better results vs. the same opponents. However, I don't think Cooper punched harder than Tyson.

    Norris quit vs. Tyson after 1 round... he claimed he could not continue after a late hit (knee injury, old injury). Now he can say he fought Tyson and did not lose... NC.

    It took Tyson 4 minutes and 9 seconds to knock out Reggie Gross and Carl "The Truth" Williams... both of these guys stopped Cooper.

    Mark Young- Tyson KO1, Cooper KO2

    Lorenzo Boyd- Cooper KO1, Tyson KO2
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I m not. I just came 2d conclusion that replying to your last post there was futile , I started replying 2 it , but had other things 2 do , still have , but d heat and lack of oxygen where i m prevent me from doing many things . I didn't want 2 post a mere partial reply. If u want then I will .
    Which is exactly d way i understood it , and I have no disagreement about this.
    Being a quick and accurate hitter put 3 good wins on Shavers' resume , actually he has a draw which is really a win as well because of it , which makes it 4 , and 1 can consider d way he almost finished Lyle as some sort of comfort 4 Shavers.
     
  13. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    i've heard that mel turnbow hit harder then most of these guys.but never made it as an elite fighter.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry 4d delay , I had 2 eat.
    results vs mutual opponents may not b effected by punching power alone , but r definitely effected by it and r an easy way of comparison unless 1 can put both men in 1 room with 1 punching bag with some sort of weight behind it.
    Thank u 4 your additional information which included mutual opponents which they had but I did not notice.
     
  15. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    This is a good ending to a stupid thread.