is sexy sergio over rated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by wtf2011, Sep 27, 2011.


  1. wtf2011

    wtf2011 Guest

    There is no doubt imo he is the best fighter from 154-160 pounds at the moment.

    At 36 it seems he is finally getting some respect and praise (so much for athletes dont become great ey floyd?)

    But i cant help but think he is a bit over rated today. I feel he is benefiting from a very weak middleweight era.

    His string of last few fights is certainly respectable.

    Cintron - Who i feel he clearly beat. It went down as a draw though

    Williams - FOTY for me. IMO williams did just about enough to nick the win. the SD loss was by no means a robbery it was a close fight either way

    Pavlik - This win is a problem with me. its well documented Pavlik is having problems, plus he had already been schooled by Hopkins which no doubt took away a lot of his confidence going into this fight. A great win at the time but in hindsight maybe not as good as we first though?

    Williams - KTFO out williams. caught him completely cold and took him OUT. Full credit

    Dzinziruk - Respectable win but against a fairly limited opponent

    He is a h2h nightmare right now and i feel a lot of guys are dodging him. Thats more due to his awkward style more than great boxing skill. He is a very awkward fighter.

    I have a problem with his resume pre cintron.
    Maybe its because people have always been ducking him i dont know. But looking at some of the names, from 2002-2007

    Alvaro Moreno Gamboa 12-23-2
    Tamaz Tskrialashvili 7-9-0
    Presente Brito 11-14-3
    Vasile Surcica 13-24-2
    Oliver Tchinda 1-7-2
    Pavel Florin Madalin 3-34-2
    Russell Jordan 14-4-0
    David Toribio 14-10-0
    Archak TerMeliksetian 16-6-0

    Thats pretty shocking opposition.
    It really seems since Margarito schooled him back in 2000, Martinez has been in a slumber in terms of opposition. No doubt some good wins in there but a lot of shocking opposition.

    His best win is arguably over Pavlik who had been exposed by Hopins and IMO always been over rated.

    I dont think Martinez has done quite enough to be p4p in the top 3, which he seems to be in.

    I really like martinez i find him very entertaining. But I dont think hes in the same bracket as floyd and manny, or even donaire or hopkins p4p wise.

    A very good champion today. Clearly the best from 154-160. But i dont think hes done enough over his career to warrant such elevated p4p status

    FOR THE RECORD::: I feel he deserves a shot at floyd or pac. but i cannot blame then in the least for turning that down. Its a dangerous fight against a MUCH MUCH bigger opponent. And its no slight on either fighter that they dont fancy it. i feel martinez is the hardest possible opponent for both pac and floyd
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    His skills and recent wins made him get on that list, the what have you done lately factor is important.
    I dont think he is overrated, dude is one of the top 5 boxers in the world right now.
     
  3. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he is overrated who the hell has he beat? Andre Ward has done more
     
  4. TitoMahawk

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  5. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    No. He's the Matt Damon of boxing. His career is on fire right now.
     
  6. im2risky

    im2risky Active Member Full Member

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    Slightly but you have to understand the man started his boxing career late.. For that, he deserve my praise
     
  7. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    what?:huh
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    He's getting alot of haters. But the more haters you get the better you are doing.


    Sexy Sergio a G. Top 3 boxer in the world.
     
  9. wooootles

    wooootles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's overrated.

    His best wins? He beat also-overrated Paul Williams and Kelly Pavlik. Williams didn't even deserve the #3 P4P ranking that he was put on by most 'experts.' And Pavlik? Another failed "white hope" who's a mental midget / alcoholic (after his Hopkins fight, ofc)
     
  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He's a spectacular athlete who has beaten some very good but not great opposition. His recent run speaks for itself and I really don't think the middleweight division is "very weak" although the best aren't fighting each other and it makes it appear worse than it is. There's talent there. If Sergio were able to fight Sturm and Pirog and beat them, it would be part of a pretty solid reign, imo.

    I can't argue with that. It's proven true. Unless you suck, of course.
     
  11. irishny

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    Paul Williams? Kelly Pavlik, heck even Dzinziruk was considered arguably the best light middle weight out there.
     
  12. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Sexy "Sexbomb" Sergio is a great fighter, and deserves to be in the top 5 P4P at least. What a handsome man.
     
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  14. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Am I the only one who doesn't think he's sexy?

    And don't get me wrong, I'm not going for no homo here, to be frank, I like the dick, I just don't find this guy sexy.
     
  15. wtf2011

    wtf2011 Guest

    why would this be a joke??