Where Do You Place FLOYD on the ATG List ???

You seem to have personal problems in your life. You lack the basic education that allows you to post something with intelligence. You're not one of those bitter white, Canadian, English ***gots that was bullied by black guys are you. Talking boxing isn't serious. Maybe you don't give a ****, but you are a ***** to me and other posters. You keep talking about big black this, big black dicks this. **** is wrong with you?

 

Name me 10 hispanic,european, or white americans better than floyd you racist piece of ****.

 

I have had three or four lists (computer crashes losing a few) over the past few years, and currently, Floyd's being shuffled about the forties, based on what I've studied and the way I reason it, to answer the TS's question. I wouldn't personally put him all that much higher or lower, at this point, the way I see him.

I do agree. But, it's a fine project to embark on, if you're a hardcore fan, and it brings some very interesting debates to the table, and gets everyone one step closer to finding Niko.


PS: Did Addie become a racist during his leave? :blood

 

It takes a lot of time and research to compile an "accurate" ATG list in my view, but if I had to take an educated guess, I would imagine I would probably place Floyd around 30th or so.

If he beats both Pacquiao and Khan, this rating will go higher. It will shoot through the roof if he ever fought and beat Martinez and took the 160 pound title.

 

top 100 I guess

 

Floyd is top 50 to 60 for me.

 

well

guys who say that he is to 50 are rather understating .floyd is higher but its hard to asses how high

 

H2H very high

SFW very high

Overall because of opponents fought/resume, not as high

 

you're one of the worst posters on this site

 

Below Pac for sure.

 

Everything has to be factored in.

The problem with ATG ranking is that we never saw those other fighters fight. We read their resume but never actually saw them fight except on some occassional and rare videos.

ATG is largely based on resume and to large extent, people's perception of how skilled they are. Gayweather belongs among the greats in terms of skill, it seem. The problem with that assessment is that that resume is somewhat shaky. For a sure ATG who never had a career-defining fight, that skillset is hard to gauge if he fought stiffer opponents.

Quality opponents are gauge on how they deal with loss. Example Bernard Hopkins after Calzaghe was still great and schooled opponents who never belong to the same plnae that Hopkins is operating. How about Corrales? Judah?, Baldomir?, Castillo?

If Gayweather is skilled, only an idiot would not recognize that Calzaghe is as skilled as well, and much more offensive minded. Both are relatively light punching.

Top 40 is probaby the right place for him. Pac would be somewhere 5-10 places higher. Morales would probably be 2-5 places higher.

 

Maybe top 100.. maybe. But he won't fight Pacquiao. That fight would have answered many questions, legacy-wise (should have already happened within the last two years). But personally..

Pacquiao KO Mayweather :deal

Mayweather didn't look top-100 against old ass DelaHoya or out of his weight class Hatton. NO.WAY.

 

Boxers I would rank ahead of Floyd in an ATG list based on resume. This is in alphabetical order. That is more than 50 names. You can probably take out a few names here and there but worst case scenario, you would still be left with about 40 names as you can argue that there are others not in the list below that are more deserving of a top 50 ranking.

Alexis Arguello
Archie Moore
Barney Ross
Benny Leonard
Bernard Hopkins
Billy Conn
Bob Fitzsimmons
Bob Foster
Carlos Monzon
Charley Burley
Eder Jofre
Emile Griffith
Evander Holyfield
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney
George Foreman
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Ike Williams
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Jake LaMotta
Jimmy McLarnin
Jimmy Wilde
Joe Frazier
Joe Gans
Joe Louis
Joe Walcott
Jose Napoles
Julio Cesar Chavez
Kid Gavilan
Larry Holmes
Manny Pacquiao
Marvin Hagler
Michael Spinks
Mickey Walker
Muhammad Ali
Pernell Whitaker
Roberto Duran
Rocky Marciano
Roy Jones Jr.
Ruben Olivares
Salvador Sanchez
Sam Langford
Sandy Saddler
Stanley Ketchel
Sugar Ray Leonard
Sugar Ray Robinson
Terry McGovern
Tommy Hearns
Tony Canzoneri
Willie Pep

 

Top 35-40 ATG right now.

 

This is bul****.:rastaKetchel Mcgovern, and other ancient era shoud not be considered, who knows how they were fighting?I am against overstating guys form XIX century. Maybe to sum up, its just incomparable