If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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  1. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    If Floyd beats Sergio at 158 Floyd will be the Greatest of all time, and Paquao will have to forever forget being called a star of this generation.
     
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  2. Doc

    Doc Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Its hard to beat Pac's resume when he has 3 ATG like Marquez Morales and Barrera.

    Although Martinez is very good, I don't think it would put him above PAC unless if he beats PAC, and then Martinez... there would be an arguament over Mayweather being ranked higher then PAC in that sceneraio..
     
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  3. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    already is. he will elevate himself very high if he can do it without the catch weight.
     
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  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I hate that it will be but hey, I still consider Pacs win over Cotto his best since he moved up.
     
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  5. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Without a doubt. Would be even greater if he challenged him at 160. If you want to be the MW champion fight at MW.
     
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  6. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top Prank turn down the Maravilla fight at 154 so yes ,when he KO PW they said hell Fawking no!!!!! and that's fact.:smoke:smoke
     
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  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd didn't win no paper or vacant belts on the way there though
     
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  8. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    How many ATG does Floyd have on his resume? (Serious question I don't feel like trying to go to BoxRec...
     
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  9. Goro

    Goro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What if Pacquiao beats Floyd after that?
     
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  10. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    How many titles in different weight class does PBF have? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it:

    Pac = 8
    ODLH = 6
    Floyd = 5
     
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  11. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    Is it quantity or quality we are looking at..... It's been proven that most of Pac's last few fights have been against people coming off of losses...and it doesn't help the JMM dude got hit, fell down, closed his eyes and then passed out...lolol
     
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  12. thatguy

    thatguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mayweather is already p4p 1, higher on most atg list as well, pac gets no g credit for starting to juice after the diaz fight. pac is a cheatinhg number 2
     
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  13. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    of course. . . . duh
     
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  14. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hate catchweight title fights and wouldn't consider him the middleweight champion(*******s can **** off when they mention Manny's "belts" at 147 and 154). But it would be an impressive win over the former 154 fighter.

    but wait a minute, how would the MW Championship be on the line? Chavez holds the belt. Would Sulaiman strip him?
     
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  15. DavidChao

    DavidChao A contender,.. a somebody Full Member

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    No. One big win does not equal to a much greater career, even if you wish to argue that the quality of that one win is greater than any single win in the careers of two individuals. In this case, between that of Pacquiao and Mayweather.

    In terms of legacy, if Floyd were to fight Martinez and win at 160 (though I won't subtract too much credit for a bout at 155+), I'd rate that as one of only one of three great wins, performance and opponent considered. Many of Floyd's performances have been great, but the opponent was not. Therefore, the win was not great.

    Additionally, Floyd has been a Welterweight for many years. Despite being called "small" by many of his fans, his body has had time to mature. Sergio has been a Welterweight slashe Super Welterweight until recently when he transitioned to Middleweight. Thus, given all of the rapid changes Pacquiao made in recent years, we would need to evaluate the "size factor" in context. Yes, Sergio is an excellent opponent with size which poses an added threat. In terms of incremental change over X interval from the perspective of the boxer in question and the comparison between siad boxer and his opponent, we must take the size disparities Pacquiao has faced to be of more significance.
     
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