ATG Ranking Pacquiao

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  1. kolokomandos

    kolokomandos GLASS IS NOT AN OPTION Full Member

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    Sugar Leonard is above Duran.
     
    kolokomandos, May 19, 2011
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  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yeah and *****s are bad?

    **** off with that
     
    bballchump11, Oct 4, 2011
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    being top 20 is what I think he will end up in, maybe 15.
    Which is incredible comsidering how many atg's there are troughout boxing history.
    There is no shame at all in being top 20/25 though, for a modern day fighting its about the highest you realistically can get.
     
    cesare-borgia, Oct 4, 2011
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  4. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    alot of old timers get overrated, like LaMotta is in top 50 on most ATG, thats based on 1 fight, fighters like calzaghe should be higher than LaMotta but he barely gets into top 100
     
    KO-KING, Oct 5, 2011
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  5. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez x2
    Mosely
    Hatton
    De La Hoya
    Margarito
    Diaz
    Clottey
    Cotto
    Barrera x3
    Morales x2
    Ledwabe

    Mayweather
     
    KO-KING, Oct 5, 2011
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  6. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he's not, not on most people's lists anyway. Pac would probably end up top 15, top 10. He'd have beaten 3 ATGs still at their best from 126-147, not including Morales, and a stack of HoF level guys.
     
    FORMIDABLE, Oct 5, 2011
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  7. ovechkin8crosby

    ovechkin8crosby Active Member Full Member

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    one thing is for sure

    pac >>morales>>>>>>floyd
     
    ovechkin8crosby, Oct 5, 2011
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  8. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Thats true, the more time passes the higher guys usually get rated, I have seen this happen with lennox,calzaghe and de la hoya.
    It will happen with pac,floyd,hopkins as well.
    Eventually a lot of the negative stuff will be forgotten and the skills and accomplishments will stick out more and future great fighters will be laughed away as now where near the atg's of the early century.:yep
     
    cesare-borgia, Oct 5, 2011
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  9. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe's resume is ****(compared to other ATG) and will always remain that way, the only reason he is rated is because H2H at 168 only RJJ beats him in a close competetive fight.

    Muhammad Ali in 1977 was rated as the 7th greatest heavyweight of All time by Ring Magazine - Now he's 1st on Most
     
    KO-KING, Oct 5, 2011
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  10. PH|LLA

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    how was Pac underwhelming against Margo.
     
    PH|LLA, Oct 5, 2011
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  11. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said, I wanted to write this but couldn't be bothered
     
    KO-KING, Oct 6, 2011
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  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the best answer I've read so far. :good
     
    Vanboxingfan, Oct 6, 2011
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  13. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's your top 25
     
    KO-KING, Oct 6, 2011
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  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well there are a couple of glaring errors. For one De Jesus is better than anyone on Pac's list, but don't take my word for it, watch him fight. Secondly Duran was 76-1 when he left the lightweight division, what's Pac's record now??

    Thirdly, Duran almost beat Hagler an ATG middleweight and did beat Barkley when he was 37 years old, and Pac is saying that Margarito was too big for him.

    Imagine if he had to fight either of those two. As for the Cotto win, do you really think that's more impressive than Duran's win over Moore? cause I watched them both and I don't. Duran's fight against Moore was an absolute infighting clinic, as was his fight against Barkley.
     
    Vanboxingfan, Oct 6, 2011
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  15. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd and Manny dont make the top 50 ATG's so im not sure either beating each other would put them any higher.
     
    rayrobinson, Oct 6, 2011
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