Anyone read Thomas Hauser's awful summation of the Hopkins debacle?

Thomas Hauser is the High Priest of the Ali Worshipping Temple. He makes me sick.

 

BINGO ChrisP!!! This was the essense of a post I made yesterday in which I expressed the belief that the tko should stand and let Hopkins go the way of other previous tko losers like marcel Cerdan, Sonny Liston, Rene Jacquot, John Mugabi, etc., all who covered themselves in glory compared to this charlatan/faker Hopkins and his disgraceful performance last Saturday night.

 

If the blow was a foul blow, shouldnt it be a DQ win?

 

The danger to me is that it seems in the hands of the "victimized" fighter to decide whether to have the fight stopped or not.

Stay on the floor to hope for a DQ win/NC. Maybe a bad example, but think Abraham vs Dirrel. Would Abraham have been DQ'd had Dirrel taken the punch? Fighters often throw in an extra punch for good measure when the other guy is on the floor. Foreman did it all the time. All they have to do is pretend being KO'd (which is the easiest thing in the world) and get that DQ win. There's also plenty of instances when one guy stops doing anything and tries the referee to take points (Hopkins is the first that comes to mind).

Everything Hopkins says or does appears fake to me. If any other boxer would've said "With one hand, yes" then I might have believed it, but Hopkins is smart and he's formulating it such that it appears he wants to continue, but knows the doctors will stop the fight upon hearing that. Same with Rahman vs Toney. Hopkins brought it onto himself by always faking ****.

Watch 7:11, that's what a real injury looks like, none of the over-selling, fake expressions and screaming. Also notice he actually .... believe it or not........ tries to get up.
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Does anyone honestly believe Cerdan vs Lamotta would've been a NC if Cerdan stayed on the canvas?

Again, I hope boxing doesn't follow the trend that football has taken during the last decade..

 

If the ref had ruled the fight a no contest there would have not been one word said that it should have been a TKO. People would have just said it was a no contest and moved on.

I think a lot of people are letting their preconceptions of Hopkins try to justify the obvious wrong call.

 

Yeah that's what Hopkins said, but his body language said he was willing to sit on that canvas for the time it took for the injury to heal before he'd go on fighting one-handed.

Look I'm sure if this wasn't Hopkins, most people would be fine with it being ruled a NC, but this is poetic justice for him given his faking, manipulating and dirty fighting throughout his career.

Should have happened much earlier - around the time of Hopkins-Allen 1 imo.

 

Does anyone think that, if the roles were reversed, that if Dawson was the one who took the fall and injured himself, that the pro-Hopkins types wouldn't be soiling their britches with glee over a tko for their man?

 

Yes it does, we just saw it. :good

The ref should have told him he's going to be TKO'ed if he can't continue, but in any case, he asked him about 5 times whether he could continue and only at the very last did Hopkins say yeah with one arm, but look at my shoulder, and started writhing again. He simply wasn't going to continue. Call that a supposition if you will, I also suppose the sun the is going to rise tomorrow.

It shouldn't have been a TKO if we're looking at this as an isolated incident. Given a panoramic view of Hopkins' career, I'm happy for the decision to stand.

 

Hey Klompton, when I see you picketing to have Nard declared a TKO loser against Calzaghe, a TKO loser for faking against Allen, and the Winky Wright fight gets declared a NC because Bernard butted Wright and caused a fight changing injury, I'll take what you say seriously.

Till then, I'll sleep easy at night with this 'injustice'.