Bruce Woodcock v David Haye

Other than perhaps power for a cruiser, i saw none of those things when watching Haye.

the man was a ponderous unskilled labourer with telegraphed looping right hand and a sloppy easily penetrable reflexive defense.


Woodcock wasn't a good fighter either though, so who knows who would win.

 

I know you're just wanting to defend one of Wladimir Klitschko's better wins but in reality the man just wasn't that good. He blew away some usual suspects of the Euro scene and nearly embarrassed himself against the big circus act that was Nikolai Valuev with an output of 2 punches a round. If not for Valuev having fallen out of favours and having ran his course, he probably would have been jobbed like the rest, putting him in the same category as ancient Larry Donald and Holyfield.

The only reason he might get a win here, is because Woodcock himself wasn't much of a fighter. He could still hit and that's why I wouldn't lay any money on Haye to win, a guy that was on the floor against a middleweight.

 

Woodcock was much better than some here are thinking, look at a couple of the ealier posts!

I understand SuzieQ, I like Haye and had faith in him, I really thought he could pull off an upset against Klit (because the Klits aren't great either), still believe he could.

But that No Show he gave is only beaten in pathetic performance by the last 5-6 years of Hopkins!

Woodcock's period was simply better, the times demanded it, even though the British and Euro HWs weren't great, some of them were good enough. Woodcock being one of them!

 

Pretty much agree with most of what you've written on this thread. Woodcock pre Joe Baski gives Haye a Carl Thomspn type of fight.

Baski ruined ( that , that hadn't already been ruined by their respective mangers and promoters ) both Woodcock and Freddie Mills . All but blinded Woodcock permanently - and Mills told his corner that Baski was too big, too strong and simply quit there and then.

 

yes the public and jack solomons were thirsty for making up for lost time after the war. Fights were made in a hurry, solomons wanted to strike while the iron was hot and deliver what the public wanted ASAP. It wasnt good on the careers of mills and woodcock, though woodcock and baksi posibly earned just as well as genuine champions.

 

Yeah, Mills and Woodcock were pUshed from pillar to post and division to division to satisfy Solomons ( Eve of Derby shows ) and Broadcribb ( The Broadcribb and Farr fisaco after the Louis fight make good reading ) .

Mills did well , not so sure that Woodcock did though - turned his back completely on Boxing.

 

And this is the truth. The guy is a terribly sloppy finisher. Just an overrated hack in general, really.

 

Yes C, I used to see big Joe Baksi at MSG, and at Stillman's gym training and joking around aftervtraining. A BIG,muscular product of the coal mines who reminded me of Joe Palooka of the comic strips.. was kod by Ezzard Charles in 1948. Ezzard too fast, for the burley Baksi...

 

Baksi was very much the Chuvalo of his era, except with a tendency to cut which led to his TKO loss to Charles. He was once to challenge Joe Louis but decided to take a tune-up in Sweden against Olle Tandberg before the heavyweight title match, and got robbed. One of the all-time dumbest moves in heavyweight history, surely.

 

then he thought about a trip back home to Poland, like the world would wait for him!

_uck fighters with more too offer in all divisions never got a sniff of a title shot, he's in line and he casually goes on holidays - now that's a real Pollock joke.

No malice intendented, just pure irony!

 

jack solomons always hinted that baksi cost him a fortune because baksi did not really fancy a louis fight. joe baksi made big money in europe, solomons even got the american a private plane so baksi could visit his family in prague from london while he was under contract. a big deal for a coal miner those days.

 

I think I read that woodcock managed peter bates, the british heavyweight who beat henry cooper, but that might have been publicity..