Degale vs groves who's future is brighter

Honestly I was probably one of the few who scored that fight for Degale. 115-113. He just seems to be a more polished boxer than Groves and the Wil. .. . . . whatever his name was was the European champion, so what if he got stopped a few years ago, Amir Khan got demolished by Prescott and still managed to improve into a world champion.

That was a good learning fight for Degale, the fact that Groves couldnt put Degale on ***** street and Piotr could makes your point invalid. is Groves featherfisted too in this case? Degale did a good job and got the W at the end of the day, do I think hes going to beat Kessler, Froch, Ward or Bute? Hell no, but can you imagine any other 11-1 fighters who can?

Degale needs to improve a hell of a lot and im sure he will by fighting the lesser fighters at European level and Fringe World Class, Personally Id like to see him take Jessie Brinkley / Aaron Pryor Jr next then move onto fighting Thomas Oosthuzien / Edwin Rodriguez. I dont know whether he will win with the latter 2 but these are great fights that boxing needs.

However George Groves I can see struggling a lot with a lot of fighters and I think the hype train is going to end sooner or later which is a shame cos he seems like a decent enough lad

 

Out of all the articles I found about the fight, I only saw one that scored it to Groves (115-114).

 

Groves will bash degale up next time they fight! He boxed on the back foot in the last fight because i believe booth knew groves defence was a bit leaky and couldnt be completly sorted in the 6 weeks prep for the fight.
Plus it completly threw thick degale of his game as him and jimmy mac were so arrogant they didnt prepare for that strategy atall.
And people on here say degale is a more polished boxer? Groves throws his punches with a closed fist and knows how to throw a hook so i dunno how you come to that conclusion.

 

A lot of these guys put their reputations on how incredible DeGale was. It's no surprise when they seek to defend it.

 

Degale needs to get a new team , J im Macdonell keeps telling him he is a talent that only happens once in a lifetime and unfortunatley james beleives, him, and in truth he is an average fighter, Groves and Degale are about the same with groves just edging it

 

Groves IMO will be at world level in the next couple of years. Booth is a quality and proven trainer at the top level. Degale has the talent but not the team to take him all the way. Groves is currently in a more comfortable position than Degale.

In the next couple of years Groves will surpass Degale unless he changes his trainer (no disrespect to McDonell- he is good for British level - but not at world level).

Groves will do well under Booth. Booth knows his stuff and will guide Groves to a title!

 

I do think everyone needs perspective. Neither has done that much in their pro careers. I'd like to see another six or seven fights or increasing opposition before I really judge DeGale or Groves.

But I do think Groves has shown commitment to improvement that DeGale hasn't.

 

You know the fact that Groves was able to run De Gale so close, forget whether he won or not, should serve as a wake up call to how good De Gale thinks he actually is, cause even if he thinks he won, there shouldn't be 1/2 rounds separating him from distinguishing himself from a fighter like Groves, if he's that much better like he told everyone he was.

De Gale has an impressive array of counters, but his other issues in terms of inability to control range, tendency to get hit, poor work-rate, underpins all that imo, which is probably why, and this cant be just a coincidence, someone like Groves has been able to beat him twice. De Gale at the moment is more flash than substance, not to say he cant carve out a good career, but he needs to take a step back and reevaluate, particularly his trainer.

 

Where you are as impartial as they come in the the case of Mr DeGale:yep

 

100%. Without fail. Genuinely.

:thumbsup

 

Well said. There was nothing in Piotr Wilczewski's previous bouts to suggest he had any real punching power, and he had DeGale on ***** street more than once. DeGale left that fight with a title belt and it gives Fwank something to promote him with, but it was hardly a sound answer to any questions the Groves fight raised. It did however raise some new ones.

 

:blood Well lets look at their styles then. Degale cant even do a left hook properly...the guy cant punch his technique is childish. And he doesnt know what to do when the opponanat doesnt rush him. He cant adapt during a fight. He doesnt do plan Bs.

What you should be asking then is...what has George Groves done NOT to be considered a better fighter than James Degale? The answer is nothing.
They have both fought similar opposition and when they fought each other Groves won.

 

:deal Spot on. Pricks like Wank Farren and Johnny Nelson...its surprise really is it

 

It is a big misconception that a supposed light puncher had him in trouble with light punches.

He realised early on that degale was giving him opening so he started throwing big hard shots that he would not normally throw. Degale I believe does have a decent chin, anyone would have been troubled with the shots he started taking.

 

Mate, that's the highest form of intellectual dishonesty. It's the same as "Anyone would have been stopped by the punches Amir Khan took!"

The Pole didn't have world-class power tucked away until the one day he knew he'd be facing a defensively suspect prospect. He's a non-puncher and he had DeGale on ***** street. You can't say "those would have had anyone in trouble" because that's completely baseless.