Strength Training Plateau

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Hi dudes,

    Some tips required please from people who are actually knowledgable or have a valid opinion....

    I've plateaued in my strength training. I do one strength session a week on top of all my training and I seem to be pretty stuck around the 30kg mark (each arm 60kg total) for the push press, one arm snatch, two arm snatch, split snatch...

    Worse still I think i'm actually struggling more. I am currently reducing weight- but is there any way I can retain or develop my strength with these lifts without substituting one of my other sessions for a strength session?

    I train twice a day 5-6 days a week at the mo and I think that the volume of my endurance style training is leading to this non development but its pissing me off. :good
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is your lifting routine? List all reps and sets.
     
  3. MrSmall

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    change the lifts / weights mate, and use a barbell.
    push press, one arm snatch, two arm snatch etc with dumbells have a limited scope for progress anyway.
    what are you currently doing?
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Erm.....

    Off the top of my head today was

    5 sets of 3 reps

    2 arm snatches 28kgs each side

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    5 sets of 3 reps

    Push press 28kgs each side

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    5 sets
    1 Arm Press Ups x 5 each arm
    10 x med ball throws

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    5 sets
    10 x weighted lunges
    10 x plyo lunges

    15 x 16kgs dumbell swings ..... 3 sets....

    Hope that makes sense mate - 60-90 sec recovery between sets.
     
  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    30kgs at a very hard strech probably sacrificing a great deal of form. :yep You know how it is/
     
  6. MrSmall

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    are the first 2 with a bar?
    where do you feel you are stalling? are you progressing the resistance on everything somehow?
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Just feel weaker- struggling for any gain......

    No the exercises are performed with dumbells
     
  8. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Easiest way is just to add a rep to each set and keep building up then drop the reps and up the weight.

    Example - 5 sets of 3 reps

    2 arm snatches 28kgs each side

    Week 1 - 5x3
    Week 2 - 5x4
    Week 3 - 5x5
    Week 4 - 5x6
    Week 5 - Drop back down to 5x3 and up the weight to 29/30kg. If you still can't lift the weight try 5x7 etc.

    Another way is to add a set.

    You could also increase the frequency of the lift you're trying to improve on.
     
  9. MrSmall

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    don't think that would work well, especially in Jeff's case, cake induced aids is a terrible thing.
     
  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. brown bomber

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  12. lefty

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    Strength training once a week would make it hard to make gains... Do you always do the exercises in the same order? Just switching the order around can make a big difference. I don't know if it's applicable if you do only one session a week but it's a good idea to sometimes leave an exercise out for a couple of weeks before re-introducing it... As you say training every day of the week is going to affect your strength day. As long as your boxing isn't going backwards it's not really a worry is it. Good luck with it all mate
     
  13. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeff, youre doing to many sessions, knowing you they will be to intense.
     
  14. Spooner21

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    theres numerous ways to get around a plateau. a couple of the effective ones ive used are that you can stick with the same lifts. but deload them down to about 60% of the weight you're doing now and gradually build up slowly 5 lbs each workout from there. takes a little longer but if you think about the time you've spent lifting the same weights and making no progress think about the progress you can make in say 10 weeks. once you start to plateau again deload down to 60% again and work your way back up. simple and effective. another is just keep the exercises similar but different. you can keep sessions pretty intense as long as the cns isnt adapting to them. by making even a small change to a lift you can force the cns to adapt to something new, yet keep it doing relatively the same thing. by picking a slightly different version of a lift you can achieve this simply by switching grips, bars, etc. pick a different version of a lift every 2 weeks. this is the method i use. when i first started my cycling of lifts i started off by close grip benching 215x5. i did regular benches and floor presses for 4 weeks then switched back to closegrips and this monday i did 235x7. this is the russian conjugate method that westside barbell uses. simmons borrowed it from russian olympic lifters
     
  15. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't just do random lifts or lift with slight differences, you have to have a reason to do a particular lift a particular way. Doing a lift the same way over and over is what makes you good at that particular lift.

    I think what worked for you is you had a weakness in a particular muscle group and you worked on that (maybe out of luck just picking a lift to do). For example if your bench is ****, work on your triceps with close grip bench and dips with your elbows tucked to work the tricpes, not just slightly widen your grip on your bench.

    The do a different lift/variation to "shock" the muscles thing is bull****. Everybody has weaknesses/imbalances throughout their body. Work on those and you'll become stronger.