Manny PaC voted greates boxer of all time by official Rankings

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  1. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No you shouldn't. A private business owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone. If they don't want the publicity and money of having an Olympic medalist in their restaurant, that's their business. You can't destroy personal freedom for the sake of not hurting someone's feelings or enforcing equality on land owners, regardless of what unpatriotic communist leeches like you and Muhammad Ali seem to think.
     
  2. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL so you are declared racist? you think because someone is black you should have right not to let him eat in your restaurant, i think you would not like if someone just came to you and kicked you from their store, i doubt you would like it.
    The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin." So what the **** are you talking about.
     
  3. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's really funny.
     
  4. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They were not going to send Ali into combat. They made it clear to him when they were trying to convince him to accept enlistment that they were going to use him as a morale booster; flying around fighting exhibition matches, giving speeches, appearing in commercials, posters, and other propaganda to try to shift public sentiment in favor of the war. They said there was no way he would ever have to fire a weapon. It's the same deal they gave to Louis and Robinson as part of the "special services division".

    Ali still refused purely out of principle. You might not agree with the principle, but given how the Vietnam War is looked at now, you would be in the minority.

    Loyalty to country is loyalty to the principles and the people of the country; it's not just loyalty to its leaders. If there's a house on fire with a bunch of children in it, and the President orders me not to go inside, guess what? I'm telling him to go **** himself because my loyalty is to the people of the country first, and government last. The people who protested the Vietnam War and put unrelenting pressure on the government to bring it to an end saved tens of thousands of American lives. THAT is patriotism, my friend.
     
  5. Reilence

    Reilence Grepolis Mania Full Member

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    Charlie Z is #43? loooooool
     
  6. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a hyperlibertarian view that I've seen quite a bit over the past few years. The idea is that people should be free to do anything they want, including individually denying freedom to others. If an employer doesn't want to hire women, why should he be forced to? If a restaurant doesn't want to serve blacks, why should he have to? If a company wants to hire 12 year olds to work in a factory and pay them 75 cents an hour, why should the government stop the will of free enterprise? Better these AMERICAN kids make 75 cents than make 0 while Indians make that money instead, right?

    Every person and every company should have the right to practice business and express their interests exactly as they please, whether other people suffer in the process or not.
     
  7. You are even stupider than the op and that rancid list all put together. Ali was told he could join the war and never have to go into combat. Was promised a mansion with cars and servants and told all he had to do was fight exhibition matches for the troops. He said no because it was what he believed in and even let them take his title for it.
    He was no coward.
    **** you and the Klitschko's
     
  8. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're a ****ing idiot. Tell me what does the decision not to hire someone have to do with denying them freedom? Are you saying that if I'm an employer and if I don't want some black ****wit working for me that I'm denying him freedom? Are you saying if I don't want to sell my house to someone I know is only going to mess up the neighborhood and make my neighbors scared that I'm denying him freedom? Tell me where exactly in the constitution it says people have the right to own land, or work at any employer they want? Yeah, you don't see it there, do you? Don't talk about things you don't know about!


    Since when is free enterprise making people suffer you liberal swine? Why should some government bureaucrats tell me how to run MY business when they don't know the first thing about it? If I don't want to hire a bunch of cripples, it's MY perogative. There's nothing in the constitution that guarantees these people the right to a job or to come to my house or my business if I don't want them there. But there IS plenty in the constitution about me being allowed to choose who can come to my private property! If you read the constitution, you would ****ing know that.

    Go back to selling copies of the Communist Manifesto, Eurotrash.
     
  9. Masamune

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    who have you ever fought ?

    go and take your face for a **** seeing as you talk out of your ass.
     
  10. Masamune

    Masamune Active Member Full Member

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    so you back your government no matter what ? isnt your 2nd amendment partly in place to give the populace the means to over throw a tyrannical government ?

    what about your oath - if big government wanted you to help round up a tea party/oath takers protest who were demanding the fed be audited would your oath that you took go out the window ? you back your governments decision no matter what - right ?

    quit being a sheep and think .
     
  11. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, that's how you end up with situations like Nazi Germany. "Well, I don't agree that we should be rounding up Jews and executing them, but if that's what my government wants me to do..."
     
  12. borj

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  13. Hydro11

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    The American government is not tyrannical though. It gives its citizens fair rights and upholds the law.
     
  14. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :nut:rofl
     
  15. untmike

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    You know, everyone isn't treated the same in America like you may think. What Ali did was courageous, especially in that particular time being a Black man and standing up for what he believed. No one gave a damn about a black man at the time, why should a black man give a damn about them. Imagine if you could ask that same question to Ali years ago during a time where blacks were treated like **** (although much better than we use to be treated). Who was standing up for his rights? For his beliefs? We are a country for freedom of religion and speech, but tear down individuals who express themselves. Not taking anything away from our troops, because I think they are remarkable, but just imagine you being in his shoes at the time and ask yourself what you would have done. And don't say that's bull**** because racism is still prevalent today, I would know. My father grew up in Memphis and was there to witness one of our greatest leaders, MLK, get gunned down. In a time like that where blacks are fighting for their own freedom, why fight for the people who was trying to keep us down?