Hagler Hearns 2

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by 80s champs, Apr 22, 2011.


  1. FrazierVsTyson

    FrazierVsTyson New Member Full Member

    70
    1
    Sep 8, 2011
    Another ko for hagler, early..possibly round 3-4. hearns coudnt get the leaverage on his punches and hagler would target his weak chin with his powerfull combinations!
     
  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

    52,105
    23,326
    Aug 27, 2011
    why didnt hearns do some squats ffs.
     
  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,462
    2,812
    Aug 26, 2011
    Ooo Geez... the Leg Massage thing.. His legs were wobbly cause he's always had a weak chin and got tag numerous times by a bigger and stronger man... No excuses needed.. that is why his legs looked like Jello
     
  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,744
    78
    Apr 4, 2010
    Except to knock him the **** out again.
     
  5. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    34,796
    64
    Dec 1, 2008
    with Hearns you have to throw out logic. Roldan,Kinchen and Barkley were fights he was moving up and down in weight with. Each fight. Later he still took an alright punch. Hearns hit Hagler too clean in the first fight, and still Hagler had to fight a perfect fight of staying close and staying intense to win. Most people see the 3rd round result without seeing how hard Hagler had to fight to win. He had to take everything Hearns had and stick to him chest. And Marvin was getting tired in round 3. Had Hearns not been so tired, I don't think Hagler would have been very fresh. In the HBO version of the fight, Leonard is heard to say after round 2 that Hagler is arm weary. There is a reason Hagler did not fight Hearns again. and it was going to be a big fight. He just didn't seem to want the rematch.
     
  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,184
    6,432
    Jan 22, 2009
    :goodRumsfeld is right,Magna.You nailed it!!:good
     
  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

    5,848
    2,552
    Mar 24, 2005
    Hearns doesn't break his hand and boxes a lot smarter. He might win a decision but I can't see him KOing Hagler. On the other hand Hagler always has the chance to catch up with anyone, so it would have been interesting.
     
  8. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    34,796
    64
    Dec 1, 2008
    the thing I do not agree with here is that Marvin in the second was taking his offense on angles, as though this has nothing to do with Hearns being tired. Hearns legs were gone in the 2nd round so Marvin could be a little more aggresive,but he was arm weary.. Had Hearns been able to have fresh legs in round 2 and have energy, everytime Marvin made a move, Hearns would have been able to jump in and land his punches like he did in round one. In round 3 Hagler was tired and Hearns was starting to pick him up and down as he used to say in some interviews, but by that point Hearns was exhausted. Hearns in a rematch would have used the jab and had room to punch after working Marvin up and down. Hagler's best bet in a rematch would be the jab and landing when Hearns got reckless, but if Hearns fought a smart fight I think he busts up Marvin by round 6. If Leonard could beat Marvin, so could Tommy, but it would be tough. Leonard did have better later movement and defense than Tommy, but Tommy had a better jab and power.
     
  9. Wu-Gambino

    Wu-Gambino ESB Swordsman Full Member

    336
    2
    Nov 17, 2006
    Hearns landed his Sunday punch square on a charging Hagler's skull and only managed to stop him in his tracks for a nanosecond of the fight. He is not stopping Marv bar cuts.
     
  10. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,672
    6
    Oct 3, 2011
    Does Hearns get to use the ring post?
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,658
    78
    Jan 21, 2006
    Leonard had one thing in spades that Tommy just didn't have a whole lot of.

    Durability.

    Tommy, no question, has the skills and gifts to get the outboxing of Hagler done if he's spot on and punch perfect. But he doesn't have the lateral movement or the head movement to not get hit, and when he got hit, he really, really didn't enjoy it. When it happened a couple more times, he got KTFO. Not even a subtle KO. Chin cracked. Out. Done.

    Tommy demonstrated he could hit Hagler, but he didn't do a good enough job demonstrating he could not get hit: At no point was he in enough control of the fight that he had it completely taken over, which he would need to do for 15 straight rounds against Marvin. He shook Hagler, he didn't hurt him bad enough for a kayo to look even remotely probable.
     
  12. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    34,796
    64
    Dec 1, 2008
    I don't think that was not Tommy's best punch. It was high on the head and hit quick, but not with all his leverage like he hit Shuler with. He might not stop Marvin, but he might, and I think Marvin knew in the rematch he might get hit cleaner and didn't want to take a chance, knowing he already beat him.
     
  13. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,243
    1,708
    Sep 9, 2011
    after the first fight this would be dissapointing i think, Hearns should move more and sideways. Hagler on points
     
  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,564
    Nov 24, 2005


    :lol:

    :good

    (Exactly what i was going to say.)
     
  15. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    34,796
    64
    Dec 1, 2008
    the thing is , Hearns was the better fighter over Hagler, but Hagler had the stylistic advantage. I think Hearns does better in the rematch and Marvin could not reach that level of intensity in a rematch. I think Marvin himself proved that Hearns would be tough in a rematch.. He knew he could only beat Hearns conclusively if he went to war with Tommy.