The debate on 24 hour weigh-ins

It is fair.

In another era, Ivan Calderon would've been a contender (at best) As it is he's now regarded as 'one of the best Straw weights of all time'.

It irks me to be honest, and I love Iron Boy. Brandon Rios would just be a decent Welterweight.

Educated guesses of course, but there isn't much depth across the board nowadays IMO.

 

On the other end of the spectrum; they say donaire is a natural featherweight. How effective would he have been had he started at bw and moved up to fw? I can't recall a time he's ever been the smaller man in the ring.

We have a modern p4p star who isn't fighting anyone who weighs the same as him.

Martinez comes go the ring about 170 and is seen as a small mw.

Lebedev weighs about 215 and isn't even a heavyweight.

The only conclusion I can draw is that it makes a mockery of weight classes.

Rios is a good example, he's probably the best active lw today yet wants to fight ortiz because they're the same size and have a rivalry.

 

Well I would say the same, but I've recently learned that Montiel outweighed him on the night.

Too be honest, it might be that a lot of, as we're using it as an example, Bantamweight, would just be the Featherweights of today. But Donaire comes in at over 130, when he can't make 126 on the day he's a Lightweight in another era!

So we can only rank fighters as per the era they're in. And for me, this era is a pretty weak one. And its my era atsch

On the flipside, would Napoles stay at 135 and defend a 'title' nowadays rather than going for glory? Maybe it's the era that also dictates a fighters mindset as well?

 

That does genuinely surprise me :think

Perhaps it is and to keep level they all hydrate in this manner which then begs the question just how effective would they be if they couldn't pile the weight on: would donaire even be competitive against a strong jofre if he's weakening himself to make the weight? If he is really a featherweight how would we he fare taking punches off a strong 126 pounder like armstrong who gives away no advantages?

What you say is true, we can only judge an era. For me that's the constant across the whole atg board: success in an era. Being the best in the world is tremendous no matter the era, this is why when people call an era weak, it doesn't really mean anything. For all we know in a hundred years people might rank purely on the results of a h2h simulation software that could show this era as the best...



That last paragraph, blame the beer passed my driving test today and it's half term so i'm getting tanked (thank the lord for autospell )

 

The only solution is multiple weigh ins
Within 10% of the weight limit 3 weeks prior to the fight.
Within 5% of the weight limit 3 days prior to the fight.
Under the weight limit 24 hours before the fight.
Within 5% of the weight limit 2 hours prior to the fight.

A middleweight could get in the ring between 160-168, a featherweight 126-132, light heavy 175-184.

 

Cheers!

I think at worst they should dictate a fighter stays within a weight class above i.e. A mw should be no more than 168 on fight night.

A complete change would mess up a lot of boxers due to the fight game at present but something does need to be done imo.

Be interesting to here one of our resident professional boxers give a viewpoint on it.

 

Mr. Bellew's certainly!