Lil Floyd found not guilty in harassment case

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Oct 26, 2011.


  1. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    way to go Money!!! Beat them cases son!!!!!
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That case is easy to prove...there's a number of sources that are direct quotes from Floyd himself and members of his team who have made the same accusations about Pac being a cheat... In more than one way.

    The fact that Floyd hasn't fought Pac yet only makes it look worse because it gives the impression that Floyd never really intended on fighting Pac. Which leaves no room to claim the accusations were to help promote the potential showdown between the two king pins.

    The damages are also easily proven as Pac's reputation has be placed into question based soley on the accusations Floyd and company have created and nothing based on any real substance.

    The burden of proof is on the shoulders of the accuser....not the one who is being accused.

    The only reason Floyd would settle is because defeat is inevitable...which is why Floyd's promoters apologized and settled out of court.

    Floyd is simply dragging this out to avoid losing to Pac...even if its outside the ring. Floyd doesn't like losing....especially to Manny.
     
  3. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not how defamation suits work. At all.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm sorry but you're off base here. Again, Pacquiao is a public figure. For him to win this case, he has to prove actual malice. That basically means that he has to prove that Maywether knows full well that he's not on steroids. That would be almost impossible to prove. As you said, the burden of proof is on the accuser. What you don't understand, is that in a legal sense, Pacquiao is the accuser being that he's the one who is filing the suit. As far as you claiming that damages would be easy to prove, again, I believe you're off base. Pacquiao would have to show some sort of loss of income. That hasn't happened. That's irrelevant anyway because the chances of him getting a judgement in his favor are not very good.
     
  5. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Malice can be shown in other instances. Floyd can pretend he truly believes Pac is on steroids to prove that he has no malice but the court will still ask him to substantiate his belief. He must give proof of why he believes so. Some can get away with it by playing the dumb card. But that is generally frowned upon by courts. And in this case where Floyd is an interested party--a big rival in the sport, a rival in the negotiations table, a rival in the networks' (HBO, Showtime etc) favor, hell even a rival even in the endorsement side of the business, Floyd's dumb card will not play so well. There will be a big suspicion of malice on his part. And he's shown racist hate towards Pac by calling him a Chinese and he will make him cook some Poochiao rice lmao. Any lawyer can pounce on that easy. I don't know how the jury system works in your country but if this case will be tried by the jury, Floyd better settle or he'll be forced to write Pac a big check.
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    How does this establish that Floyd knows Manny isn't using PED's, and going out of his way (and succeeded) in costing Manny money via hurting his reputation? If anything Floyd has made Manny money by making him an even greater star than he was before all this? Not sure I'm following your reasoning.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Why are you mad? :huh
     
  8. Knickerbocker

    Knickerbocker Active Member Full Member

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    dude it was a MISDEMEANOR

    :hi:
     
  9. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lance loves him some Mayweather
     
  10. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    you know what happens in a deposition, they get to ask you everything. the lawyers cannot even make objections as they would in a trial. Even when objections are lodged, the answers will still be given and the judge still gets to read it before he decides if it's not admissible.

    They will ask him why he believes Pac is on steroids, they will examine every detail of his basis. Floyd may act like he's dumb and say he just believes so like Philippines has the best PEDs in the world and Filipino soldiers were bullet proof. Some get away with it, but **** only a ***** will believe that floyd truly believes that lmao. And the lawyers will point out his interests vis-a-vis Manny and and what he will gain by ruining his reputation. Then lawyers will ask him about his racist rants, they will find a way to make it appear he really hates Manny. They can do it, these lawyers can do anything to make you look bad especially if the case will be decided by a jury.

    I don't know about the financial damages. But Manny could easily establish malice by simple cross examining floyd. The damages part is up to the lawyers. they know what is Manny's financial ledger and endorsement dealings. they could come up with evidence that we don't know about
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Not as much as you love him obviously. You're just a ***gy ass casual bandwagoner... :thumbsup
     
  12. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    This is why Floyd don't want to go to the deposition. He knows he will be ripped apart. These are not flimsy lawyers like the cheap ones paid for by the security guards. He's afraid of making mistakes and saying some **** that will make him look bad.

    And you know Floyd, when he's afraid of something he simply ducks it. Just like he's ducking Pacquiao because he's afraid of him.
     
  13. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look up Plaxico Burress and Jim Brown when you get a chance.
     
  14. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure it does....do your home work.. a defamation case involves one or more parties pushing unfounded accusations in an attempt to tarnish, discredit or harm the reputation or image of the opposite party... Factoring into the outcome is how the damaging comments effected the ability to earn a living, loss of potential earnings and emotional and/or physical pain and suffering. Pac has a good team of lawyers and a pretty easy case thanks to Floyd and his goons.
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Malice is the easieatbthing to prove in this case... From that racial rant that was riddled with the same baseless accusations that put the mega fight on ice.....the intent was always clear...which was to discredit and hurt the reputation of Pac.

    Pac is the Plaintiff....based on the known accusations stemming from Floyds damaging comments which is exactly what the judge will bade his ruling on.

    the loss of income is NOT the end all be all....simply the potential of missing opportunities based on being under the cloud of suspicion created by Floyd will be more than enough to rule in Pacs favor.

    Believe me...... Floyd wouldn't be stalling if what you say is true...that judgment in favor of Pac is not likely... Floyd would have already gotten this out if the way as would Golden Boy.