Is it true that Pacs ok to take a blood test right after the fight??

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  1. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Yes, Floyd looked fine. Just not as fantastic footwork wise as he did against JMM.

    Funny how Floyd displayed incredible footwork though not necessary against a flat footed smaller JMM but was flat footed himself against a more dangerous bigger opponent in Shane Mosley.

    Less red blood cells in Floyd = less impressive footwork?

    :think
     
  2. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're telling like Pacman want the blood test after the fight only girl.
     
  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    what you don't understand is that what manny offered is enough to detect if he was to use known EPO or known anabolic steroids.

    Floyd probly knows it's also enough as he has people that are smart enough to understand and could pick apart what Pac's team had countered if there's ways Pac could cheat.
     
  4. ???

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    Come on, son. Dude has backed himself into a corner. He has no choice but to insist every opponent take the extra blood tests now.

    Look at the movement of the cutoff date by both sides during negotiations. Who is moving towards compromise, and who is moving away from it?

    F: 0
    M: 30
    M: 24
    F: 14
    No fight.

    F: 0
    M: 14
    F: 0
    M: 7
    No fight.
     
  5. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Yes, that was well documented. I read somewhere that NSAC is looking to include blood testing now but in a way that is not invasive to the fighters but can still be effective.

    I'm thinking postfight blood testing and year round and out of training random blood testing. This is how it should be done, which is the true Olympic Style where no blood testing is involved before boxing fights.
     
  6. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The last week before a fight boxer don't even train hard anymore also:lol:. They slow down on their training to get ready for the fight.
     
  7. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was never a question about this. USADA tests the fighters after the fight. The randomness of the testing up until the fight has been the sticking point. This is the element of the testing that makes it a deterrent. The fighters are on notice from the start of training until the day of the fight, that they could be asked for blood, urine, or both.
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I agree but the 14 day cut off is a non issue because the bulk of the training is way before that. This is what im not getting.

    Lets say the fights mid May. Bulk of training is Feb thru end of April. Well, theres random testing for those months.

    If Pacs dumb enough to take it 2 weeks before the bout, hed get caught post fight. Whats the problem?
     
  9. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well...for one, the fight would've already taken place. How is that protecting the fighters?

    I can see your point. There's nothing wrong with a cutoff, if there no possible way someone could benefit in any way from PEDs during a window like this. But, few to none of us are experts in the area of PEDs. I don't claim to be, and I assume you don't either. Of course, we don't have to be completely ignorant on the topic, either, with the internet at our disposal.

    Anyway, my point is if you can't guarantee 100% that a fighter could not use and benefit from ANY type of PEDs, within a period of days or weeks, it makes sense to not give the individual any gaping window of time to do so. And, since it's too invasive to be with the fighter 24/7, it's nearly as effective to not tell the fighter when your going to show up and what type of sample you will need. The randomness will serve as a good enough deterrent.

    I don't see the problem.
     
  10. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    exactly. the wonder PED will mysteriously disappear millisecond after it hears the final bell. not the 12th round bell but the final, so that includes the referees voice. that's why its called the wonder ped.

    i really thank ESB for hiring VivaNazVegas as another in-house wonder PED expert. kudos!
     
  11. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    the nevada boxing commission doesnt know jack**** about doping. they better get a head hunter and scour ESB for experts.
     
  12. VivaNazVegas

    VivaNazVegas Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks bro :good
     
  13. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because its up to USADA to decide when to cut off drug testing, not Pac or May.

    If USADA decides 18 days then its 18 days(Mosley), if USADA decides 10 days then its 10 days(Ortiz). As long as the blood testing results don't really show any discrepancies then they most likely wouldn't test past 10 days anyway. So If Pac isn't roiding, USADA would most likely give him a decent cut off date anyway.

    They also don't blood test until 2 hours after training is complete when they do blood test in order to avoid interrupting training.
     
  14. houseboy

    houseboy Keyboard Warrior Full Member

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    :deal
     
  15. Boxing Fanatic

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    orgs usually test after the fight