And regarding this interesting information again , don't u think that standing there and twisting his arm after impact would have turned Ali in2 a stationary target ? and we know that he wasn't .
Or Alonzo Johnson (who had lost 10 out of his last 11 fights) or Doug Jones etc. etc. etc. It might be easier to list which of Clay-Ali's fights weren't rigged!
So far I would say : Patterson * 2 (though Patterson had a back injury in their first and was shot in their second ) Ellis Lyle (whom was effected by d rumble in d jungle more than Foreman himself , Lyle was clearly not a smart man) Bonavena 1 could also add old Foley (whom was never more than a mediocre journeyman anyway) Maybe even d Liston fights ?
Your "thoughts" on guilt, crime, criminals and suspicion makes for interesting reading. I would be very interested in knowing what you do for a living, if you don't mind. Thank you for informing me that you read this forum for 4 years and also other forums. You have also watched fights and used some [why only 'some'?] thought about what you saw and read. Please continue. I am sure that one day your posts will 'imitate' (without any attempt on your part to do so) those of the better [worse in your mind] posters here. Good Luck.
hahaha verry funny. i thought it was the other way around.. people (convicted criminals or whatever) are innocent UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.. you have very scary thoughts on justice system, law etc etc. hopefully for you're city or community where you live you never get a job with big reasponsebilities or office power.
If you read Cosell's comment as posted by Longhorn1 here, Ali said that he twisted his arm on impact. This is a common technique used by many Asian martial arts to increase the snap of the blow. Your comment that Ali twisted his arm after impact gives an entirely different meaning to Ali's [as reported by Cosell] comment. I think that it would be utterly idiotic for any boxer to hit his opponent and then twist his arm. What purpose would it serve, aside from, as you said, make him stationary? Just try to imagine the scene. Outright comical. By the way, was your twisting [pun intended] of words intentional?
intended = intentional on impact ? what does it mean ? either he twists it or he doesn't , what does it matter what his arm does during its flight ? and as u know 1 of Ali's purposes was 2 cut his opponents . And if I will find myself imitating d others here more than d sparsely occasional case then I will stop posting because I will become redundant here . There is enough janitor / Burt Bienstock / Bokaj / Bummy Davis / McGrain / bodhi here , don't u think ?
You miss my point completely. The pun was 'intended' on my part and I asked if the twisting of words were 'intentional' on your part. So, in the context of what I said, intended is definitely not equal to intentional!
atsch Ali was up at a count of 4, he got 6 seconds more to rest, 1min and 6 seconds between rounds happen in most fights glove wasnt changed Dundee tried to get time with gloves but it didnt work , its another thing british boxing fans like to believe in myths just like Hatton lost to Floyd because of Cortez thez believe Cooper won, they probably have some explanation about Hagler destroying Minter, delusional!!!!
This is what that biased article says . There is most probably a jump / edit in d "unedited" version that d author of that article watched . This is not d truth . D truth is that Ali got his much needed break and Dundee did mess with his gloves and did give him smelling salts and Cooper only "lost" due 2 cuts and every available version of this fight is edited 2 fit Ali's and his supporters' claims . Angelo Dundee = Panama Lewis inducted 2d HOF . Ali = glorified Luis Resto who is idolized and was never given any problems despite some of s evidence against him is recorded .
You are a hater, and you can download fight, and see that Ali got up at 4, and you can use stopwatch to see time between rounds, you are a hater and everything you say abaout Ali is biased, the fact that Cooper is best known for knock down of Ali just tells you how great Ali is, and Cooper lost the fight end of story, dont be like Vitali fans saying he won against Lewis :yep [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxX9Ql_LZtM[/ame] At about 19:30 is knock down and 2 seconds later end of the round, get your stop watch hater and time pause between rounds, dont believe biased british press that made Cooper a legend because he scored knock down against Ali, i hope you are able to believe your own eyes even if you are a hater.
U should know that something is wrong when d fullest version available is supplied by sweetfights . I watched it but I remember that it is still edited and u can't deny what I posted in my previous posts in this thread , maybe u should read them again and understand them . Try 2 argue with my claims there instead of posting vids ( I watched d edited 1st Ali vs Cooper in d link u posted ) . What u supplied here can back your claims only if it is totally unedited . How do u know that it isn't ? I remember that even in d biased pro Ali article some1 posted in my thread it is still claimed that d fullest version its author managed 2 get was still edited
That video of Cooper-Clay is criminally edited. Even Dundee admitted that he got Clay over a minute to recover between rounds by messing with his glove. I think that Sir Henry Cooper, in his autobiography, said that the time between rounds was approximately five minutes, which is my understanding as well. Also note the illegal smelling salts.
