Is MAYWEATHER really JMM X2? In Regards to a PACQUIAO fight.

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  1. normnix

    normnix Member Full Member

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    I'm convinced some of y'all smoke crack. Just because Floyd chooses not to throw a lot of combinations as he's moved up in weight class does not equate to him not being good at throwing them. Floyd isn't JMM x2. Maybe from a counter punching aspect. But that shell does more than keep him from getting hurt. It allows him to start timing his opponent. If Pac can not catch Floyd slipping early, he's going to get hit....OFTEN. Floyd won't need to go into a war if by the 5th round Pac is getting hit with check left hooks and uppercuts in the clinch. Ultimately, the longer the fight goes, the tougher it will become for Pac to win.

    And lol @ JMM winning the majority of the rounds in both fights being "forced" into anything.
     
  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    floyd throws combinations just fine. He uses two punch combos all the time. You dont see him throwing anything more than 3 very often because obviously he is defensive minded and that leaves you opened up. People act like if he puts together two punches he is tripping over himself or something
     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    They are different fighters. Marquez would lure Pac in, step back, and fire combinations matching Pac punch for punch as Pac's momentum carried him forward into JMM's trap.

    Floyd counters mostly in single shots. He would step back and fire back a straight right using his usually longer reach which keeps his opponents at a safe distance and then quickly steps back again to avoid a counter from his opponent.

    JMM: counterpunches and usually stays on offense

    Floyd: counterpunches than gets back on defense
     
  4. PBF24

    PBF24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good:good
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only a fool would say they are almost a like. About the only similiarity they have is that they are great counter punchers and very skilled. But it ends there. I know people are trying to gauge how a Floyd/Pac fight will turn out based on Pac/JMM, but i don't think that's a good idea. Yeah, in a fantasy world, if you had to dream up a guy to beat Pac, Floyd would be close to it. But then again, how many people can withstand Pac's power, blinding combinations from all angles and foot speed?
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    It's funny because you rarely see good analysis from Floyd fans (Despite their love for the "sweet-science"). It's not like you get it from Pac fans too often either. You know where you get the great analysis from in regards to answering such a thread like this? Marquez fans.
     
  7. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wrong, not hes combos and his heart and balls to fight back.:deal
     
  8. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
  9. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets see, what does JMM do better than Mayweather?

    Absolutely Nothing.

    He's slower, less powerful, lesser footwork, worse defense, smaller, has a habit of getting knocked down, and just about anything else that he does Mayweather does at least twice as good.
     
  10. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd might be JMMx2 in terms of punch selection and counterpunching. And that's saying a lot, since Marquez is a gifted counterpuncher. He is a better athlete than Marquez, bigger, faster, better reflexes, better defense, etc. Does he have more heart than Marquez? I don't know. He's never had to get off the canvas three times in a round and fight on with a busted nose. And he will probably never have to. If Marquez had Floyd's gifts, there would be no need for a third fight.

    If Floyd boxes and moves against Pac, he can win...and probably easily. Pac takes chances and gets out of balance trying to land sometimes. Floyd will make him pay for those mistakes. He has the longer reach, and has an excellent jab when he throws it. The right hand is fast and extremely accurate. He will hit Pac when he wants to, I think.

    Now...if Floyd tries to make it a war (not likely) he stands to lose, IMO.
     
  11. JM22

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    Mayweather last stoppage was years ago against Hatton, Marquez has stop 4 out of 6 fighters hes fought in the last couple of years, so I dont agree on the power thing or his combos.:good
     
  12. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And plzz dont say Ortiz.:lol::patsch
     
  13. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are a ******.

    Mayweather fights smaller fighters? Ortiz was smaller? Oscar was smaller? Shane Mosley was smaller? Corrales was smaller? Castillo was smaller? Judah was smaller? Baldomir was smaller? ****ing tricky as **** Mayweather is, making a career of moving up in weight to fight guys but somehow being bigger than them. Who exactly was smaller? Ricky Hatton who fought 90% of his career heavier than Mayweather? JMM is the only guy that has been smaller.

    Mayweather fights weak fighters? Being better than them doesn't mean they are weak. The only guy that gets his nuts off fighting weaker fighters is Manny Pacquiao. When Shane Mosley was still kicking ass, Manny demanded the fight happen at 141, but the second Mosley got his ass kicked and got a gift draw against Sergio ****ING Mora, Manny finds his nuts and wants to fight. Same thing with JMM, you ****ing *******s spent days on here moaning about Mayweather fighting him. But the second Manny does it when he is older, and has proven he doesn't belong north of 135, calling out a lightweight becomes a tough fight. Oscar was a weight drained Zombie with needle marks in his arms, but that is a tough fight for Manny.

    As for the Ortiz-Mayweather fight. Mayweather looked shocked by Ortiz? No ****. He was shocked by how big of an ass whooping he was putting on the guy who had his ****ing belt. The entire fight can be played out as this.
    Mayweather kicks the **** out of Ortiz in the center of the ring
    Ortiz eventually bum rushes Mayweather to the ropes while swinging like a wildman, landing jack ****.
    Mayweather clinches and Ortiz tries to headbutt before getting broken up by Joe, rinse and repeat.

    Why the **** do you think Ortiz did a ****ing jumping headbutt? because he was winning?

    As for Manny kicking the **** out of JMM? He better ****ing do it. Considering he's two weight classes bigger than the guy, and his only excursion in this one was being turned into a test dummy for 36 minutes.
     
  14. iRuBerPosteR

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    i would say its more of lead right against lead left. im not sure there will be a lot of jabbing in this fight.