Is Joe Frazier's win over Ali the best win in the history of the sport?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Is it? Or isn't it? Discuss
     
  2. Ferocious Frank

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  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's the most monumental win. I wouldn't say it's the outright best or most impressive, although it's definitely up there.
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    The only things that come close is Duran over Leonard
    Leonard over Hagler
    Max over Louis
    Jack Johnson over the Great White Hope
    Ali over Foreman
     
  5. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    Depends who you ask, but for the majority, it's second to Jefferies Vs Johnson
     
  6. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im trying to think of someone who has a better win or their res than an undefeated ali?

    Id probably put LaMotta over SRR ahead of it. Tough one though.
     
  7. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huhHow so? Jeffries was a washed up fighter. In terms of significance at the time that fight was huge and generated massive interest among the public, but it was certainly not the best win, or even one of them.

    In terms of historical and cultural significance, Louis/Schmeling II was bigger than Jeffries/Johnson, anyway.
     
  8. Arcane

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    It's up there Duran's win over SRL (with Ali's win over Foreman being third)
     
  9. El Bujia

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    Nah, for a few reasons.

    A) Robinson was still relatively young, probably not quite at the peak of his powers.

    B) It was a 10 round non-title fight.

    C) LaMotta was always the larger man, and held a 16 pound weight advantage over Robinson in that one.

    With that said, LaMotta arguably deserved the decision in their 5th fight in 1945 as well.
     
  10. Joe.Boxer

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    Your posts never fail to suck.
     
  11. Alien

    Alien Chin Scholar Full Member

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    Bute-Johnson.
     
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    Pacquiao - De la hoya
     
  14. Tully

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    yeah the weight does prevent this from beating Ali / Frazier to be fair.

    Its hard to say what we are looking for in a "best win", an underdog victory? Buster vs Tyson ....A close evenly matched fight? Hearns / Leonard. A great fighter losing their "0"..
     
  15. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Its up there with the greatest fight of all time in which Benny Leonard came out of retirement to whoop Max Schmeling just to give Hilter that "dont mess" kinda warning.