Toney deserves credit for fighting with injured knee

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    According to various reports, Toney will undergo knee surgery this friday. The injury suffered during the second round is more serious than expected.


    Here we have a warrior who fights 11 rounds with one leg in a country far away from home against a hard hitting and arguably best crusierweight in the word. Toney could have easily quit in this fight but he did not.

    On the one side, all journalists criticizing Hopkins for quitting. On the other side, they do not want to talk about the injury and Toney's heart.
     
  2. Gooners2

    Gooners2 Archie Solis Full Member

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    Toney's injury was legitimate imo. You could visibly see he had a problem with it. Hopkins wasn't imo.

    I remarked to my girlfriend in the very first round how Toney's balance didn't look right, that he was throwing punches from out of range, which was very unlike Toney.
     
  3. Routa

    Routa Undisputed King of ESB Full Member

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    Toney is not a perfect man. He has made mistakes in his life and in his career. But he is a true fighter. That we can say.
     
  4. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mad respect for not quiting.

    He is a true old school warrior.
     
  5. pörri

    pörri New Member Full Member

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    All I hear is how old he is. No reflexes, No stamina, still fat (even he lost 60 pounds). I think those comments made people who didn't even watch that fight, or at least didn't pay attention how bad that knee injury was. after second it was one legged Toney fighting.
     
  6. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When hasn't "lights out" made an excuse after losing ?
     
  7. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    Toney is a tough, tough warrior. There is no quit in him. He could have taken the easy way out, but he rather took his beating like a man.

    That said, I think it's now time for Toney to retire. That injury is a sign that his body can't take it no more... 43 years old, 20+ years of a pro career, 80+ pro fights, many many wars, and he didn't even take care of his body. He's an ATG and bonafide future HOFer and he has nothing left to prove.
    I also think he would have lost to Lebedev even if the injury hadn't occured. He would have made it more competitive, but he probably would've lost. Even in that first round, before the injury occured, he looked rusty, weak and weight drained.
     
  8. lowblow3

    lowblow3 Former Champ Full Member

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    An injury is an injury. Nobody is competitive while fighting on a single leg. Neither The Blade nor myself, both of us were onsite sitting at ringside, are saying that Toney would have won without the injury.
     
  9. horst

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    Even as a Hopkins fan, this incident clearly shows the difference in mentality between a fearless ******* like Toney and a more calculating fighter like Bernard. Toney would rather be defiant until the final bell even if he has to absorb punishment, whereas Bernard would not fight on with such an injury. Both great fighters, but James is the more "old school" in my opinion.
     
  10. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    It's a well documented injury, not an excuse. And Toney didn't make any excuses, no, he apologized to his fans instead for letting them down.
    Toney could have quit, citing his bad knee as an excuse, but instead he hung in there and took a beating. How is that making excuses? It's the opposite!
     
  11. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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  12. Gooners2

    Gooners2 Archie Solis Full Member

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    I knew Toney wasn't going to tap out easily when Couture got him in that choke hold, as that is the kind of person Toney is.

    Toney might act like a bad ass, and he might say some people are taught to fight, some people are born to fight, referring to himself, but its true. Toney is a true fighter.