Kirk's ESB Championships 2011

Robney · Nov 10, 2011

So, 5 hours after my post I can either assume no regular Kirk poster is online or my bogus "robney@doesntexist.com" mailbox is flooded with hatemails by now :yep

BeastsideBoxing · Nov 10, 2011

It's not my place to comment but you will need a minimum of teams to start the games. Now depending of the minimum and the number of territory available you gave each team 1 or more default territory(first team that claims it get's it) - dividing the sum of territory at the numbers of team, if you get a ratio of 2.2 or something like that, you left 1,2 or as many territories as you need neutral(no mans land) , and those should be given as a prize to the top 1,2 or 3 teams that week, or be the prize for a h2h clash or idk... something.
I don't like the idea of making a cup with a fast ending. Make it last. Make team winning territories and the losing, make it hard for 1 team to take all the world. And make some table standings with percentage. Just saying.

BeastsideBoxing · Nov 10, 2011

Bigger-Bone idea with stealing territory one of another should be really nice.It would create Rivalry's among teams

a.arthur.h · Nov 10, 2011

Dubs (AnthonyW) has joined to finalize the second GTMSBT team. Name still to be determined.

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Badlok · Nov 10, 2011

a.arthur.h said: ↑

Dubs (AnthonyW) has joined to finalize the second GTMSBT team. Name still to be determined.

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freddy-wak · Nov 10, 2011

11/11 - Diego Magdaleno vs. Emmanuel Lucero
11/11 - Austin Trout vs. Frank LoPorto - WBA Light Middleweight title
11/12 - Gennady Golovkin vs. Lajuan Simon - WBA Middleweight title
11/12 - Tyson Fury vs. Neven Pajkic - Commonwealth Heavyweight title

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11/12 - Timothy Bradley vs. Joel Casamayor - WBO Light Welterweight title
11/12 - Juan Carlos Burgos vs. Luis Cruz
11/12 - Breidis Prescott vs. Mike Alvarado

DIEGO TKO
TROUT TKO
FURY TKO
BRADLEY UD
BURGOS UD
ALVARADO TKO
MANNY UD

Tackleberry · Nov 10, 2011

Magdaleno ko

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

a.arthur.h said: ↑

Dubs (AnthonyW) has joined to finalize the second GTMSBT team. Name still to be determined.

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deal badass, arthur :good

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

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How 'bout you just make it like a NBA/NFL/NHL (I use AmeriCan leages so you catch my drift) like setup. 2 pools that have to go head to head with eachother with say 3 chosen fights and get the points out of that.

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Round 1: Team1 vs Team8, Team2 vs Team7, Team3 vs Team6, Team4 vs Team5.
Round 2: Team1 vs Team7, Team2 vs Team6, Team3 vs Team5, Team4 vs Team8.
Round 3: ....etc, etc.

At the end the semis between A: #1 of Pool1 vs the #2 of Pool2, and B: the #1 of Pool2 vs the #2 of Pool1.

Loser A: vs Loser B: for the 3rd place.

Winner A: vs Winner B: for the Kirk's World Team World Championship of the World

This will also work if there are only 6 teams like now, only then it's probably just winner Pool 1 vs winner Pool 2 in the end.

Watcha all think?
If you think it's a good plan please praise me, if you think it isn't just write a angry letter to
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and I promise I'll reply once I read it. :bart
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Interesting ideas robney :think, thank you.... when I get home from work Ill sit down if I can and try to think a bit more on everything, I do like the divisions...

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

I am leaving once again tonight, wont be back until sunday, so I will probably be fairly absent from the thread in the next few days. sunday I will be back though so Ill be able to get some updates out then.

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

BeastsideBoxing said: ↑

It's not my place to comment but you will need a minimum of teams to start the games. Now depending of the minimum and the number of territory available you gave each team 1 or more default territory(first team that claims it get's it) - dividing the sum of territory at the numbers of team, if you get a ratio of 2.2 or something like that, you left 1,2 or as many territories as you need neutral(no mans land) , and those should be given as a prize to the top 1,2 or 3 teams that week, or be the prize for a h2h clash or idk... something.
I don't like the idea of making a cup with a fast ending. Make it last. Make team winning territories and the losing, make it hard for 1 team to take all the world. And make some table standings with percentage. Just saying.
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Ya I like the no mans land idea too :think

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

BigBone said: ↑

This world map domination sounds crazy good. It'd go down, I imagine, first taking all free lands by correct team pick then go H2H and take lands from each other, is that what you're looking for, Kirk? In any case, as many teams as already are, 100 territories sound necessary.

P.S. again, I should have one win more in my record I think.

P.S.2. Magdaleno TKO
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Good to hear you think it would be worthwhile to at least try, was thinking I was gonna scrap it actually....

And ya you pretty much got the idea....

and ill get that checked out and corrected on the next update bigbone, thanks :good

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

jdr said: ↑

Kirk i put picks in already but they are not shown in the updates do i need to put them in again.
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No I will find them and put them up.... thanks jdr

kirk · Nov 10, 2011

DemolitionDan said: ↑

Diego Magdaleno vs. Emmanuel Lucero- Diego Magdaleno by KO
Austin Trout vs. Frank LoPorto- Austin Trout by KO
Tyson Fury vs. Neven Pajkic- Tyson Fury by KO
Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III- Manny Pacquiao by KO
Timothy Bradley vs. Joel Casamayor- Timothy Bradley by UD
Juan Carlos Burgos vs. Luis Cruz- Juan Carlos Burgos by SD
Breidis Prescott vs. Mike Alvarado- Mike Alvarado by KO

Here we are again boxing fans, another good fight weekend, and not only that it is a big big event. An event where the casuals pay attention. Now, boxing, overall, has been a good year, but in terms of the big fights where all the casuals watch...not so much. We have had Shane Mosley run and touch gloves for 12 rounds against Manny Pacquiao, we had David Haye run, and fall down for 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko (and to make matters worse, he blamed his pinky toe. Standing there with his shoe off showing everybody, ugh.) We have had the weird circus finish of Mayweather-Ortiz. Ortiz headbutts, Joe Cortez loses control and in WWE fashion Mayweather knocked out Ortiz, while, Cortez, the ref, wasn't looking at what was going on. For two rounds Bernard Hopkins and Chad Dawson threw a total of 5 punches, Hopkins jumps on Dawson, Dawson shoulders him off, Hopkins can't continue and it is ruled a TKO. (for now...) All in all, boxing's big fights haven't delivered, but this Saturday, with full confidence, I can say that the main event this Saturday will. But before we get into the main course, let's take a look at some of the appitizers to feast on this weekend.

First up two Friday fights. These, not so competitive on paper, and more than likely, won't be competitive. Diego Magdaleno is taking on Emmanuel Lucero. Now, if boxing had stocks on prospects (and some people get confused on the term 'prospect' a prospect is a young fighter, usually early to mid 20's, a number of fights in the teens to early 20's, and doesn't have a world title belt) and the question was "Who has all the skills to be a long time champion, and who has the looks to be a future superstar?" Talking boxing stocks, I would definitely buy on Diego Magdaleno. Magdaleno is a slick fighter, very skilled, is a young fighter, and has the looks of a Oscar De La Hoya. Magdaleno has all the looks and tools to be in that class. He is fighting Emmanuel Lucero, who, really isn't a step up from his last fight against Alejandro Perez. Lucero is a decent gatekeeper/journeyman type fighter who, basically, loses to good fighters. He has lost to Manny Pacquiao, Daniel Ponce De Leon, Rocky Juraez, and Jason Litzau. Not only that, but he was stopped in those fights. This will be a good barometer to see exactly where Magdaleno is, and if he does stop him (and he should) then he'll be on the right track. So, prediction, Magdaleno by pretty quick stoppage. About the 4th round or so.

Also, on Friday, the boxing world will finally be able to see Austin Trout. Trout is a good, young, boxer, who just recently picked up a world title at 154. Not only does Trout have the goods, but he has been a road warrior, and a winning road warrior no less. His last 4 fights have been in 3 different countries. Once in Panama (where he was very close to getting robbed.) once in the States, and his last two fights in Mexico. Earlier this year he took on Rigoberto Alvarez (Canelo's hermano) and beat him for a vacant world title. He then defended it back down to Mexico against David Lopez and beat him by wide UD. Now, he's back in the States and it is more a less a showcase fight. He is taking on Frank LoPorto, who is more of a Australian club fighter. On paper this isn't a competitive fight and Trout should easily have his way. Trout is fast, throws lots of punches, decent pop, and all that should be an easy win and a mid stoppage win.

Tyson Fury, oh how he has grown. Tyson Fury of 2008/2009 was a clown. A big, goofy, uncoordinated heavyweight who was punching himself in the face, to now. A fighter who is getting diciplined and is forming into a pretty good heavyweight prospect. 2011 Tyson Fury has grown leaps and bounds and has been getting better and better and has been making for exciting fights. He stopped Marcelo Luiz Nascimento in 5, but then, the true test came for him. Fellow undefeated Englishmen, Dereck Chisora, took him on and they produced a very entertaining fight and a fight Fury looked quite good at times. His last fight was against Nicolai Firtha and for 4 rounds that was his most complete performance. He looked great, using distance, using his jab, while being exciting, but probably a bit too exciting for him. In the 3rd round he was rocked with a big time right hand and was badly, badly hurt. He recovered though and ended up stopping Firtha in the 5ht round. In this fight, he is fighting Neven Pajkic, who is basically a club fighter with a padded record...a very glossy record. He is undefeated and that is just to make Fury's resume look good. Beating a guy with an undefeated record. That's it. This fight does nothing for Fury, just to make him look good in the ring, and out of the ring. I expect Fury to look good, put on a good performance, and win by early knockout.

Now, we go to the States to the "fight capital of the world" Las Vegas, Nevada where Top Rank, surprisingly, has a pretty good card on tap. First up, Mike Alvarado is taking on Bredis Prescott. Now, what sucks is that the building will be 80% empty (or I guess 20% full, if you're an optomist) but this fight should be quite good. Mike Alvarado is a fighter that comes forward for 3 minutes, shows nice head movement, thinks about D, and throws nice power shots. Alvarado is coming off a very one sided performance against Gabriel Martinez. Prescott will be coming to fight. Prescott is coming off a good performance where he looked very, very good against Paul McCloskey, a close fight, where he didn't get the nod. Prescott boxed well, beautiful jab, nice straight right. If Prescott comes out motivated tries to box, this will definitely be a fun fight. One of those, bull versus matador type fights. I gotta think Prescott will have a good early rounds, but Alvarado starts hitting up, Prescott gets tired, and Alvarado stops Prescott in the late rounds.

By this time now, the arena should be 50-65% full by now. And this is all that needs to be said...Mexico versus Puerto Rico. That's it. Nothing more needs to be said...but I'm going to still talk about it. Luis Cruz is an undefeated fighter, but largely untested. His only notable scrap is beating Martin Honorio, but Honorio only had a week's notice and still made it the distance and really did give Cruz fits at times. Cruz is a nice boxer that has had a good arsenal, but he really doesn't do anything that's really "wow'ing" at least, not yet. Juan Carlos Burgos is a bit of the same way. He is a nice, well, rounded boxer, just a little bit better resume. His only really big, big fight was a fight he lost, to Hozumi Hasegawa. Both, nice outside boxers, nice jabs, both very tall for 126/130...this fight will be taking place at 130. Very interesting fight that I think will be a couple of feel out rounds and then it starts to heat up from round 4 on up and I believe we will have a war. This is a very, very even fight on paper and I think most rounds will be very close and we will have a debatable decision...if it makes it to the cards, but, most importantly, it will be a great fight.

Unfortunately, this is the co-feature of the PPV. The most important fight on a PPV, the gateway to the main event. This fight, with most people that bought the PPV will be tuning in, and pretty much the building will be filled up to watch Timothy Bradley and Joel Casamayor fight. Ugh, now Bradley is a P4P fighter, a top rated fighter, but this fight will most certainly hurt his stock. Casamayor is, not only a tough fighter to look good against, but he is old now. Casamayor looked horrible in his last fight against Manuel Leyva, then it was against Robert Guerrero another snooze induced fight. Basically, tell all your friends to not get mad at Bradley-Casamayor. Tell them that this might be a horrible, horrible fight and have very low expectations of it. And just hope that Bradley comes out with a man on a mission, comes out swinging, and makes Casamayor quit on his stool. Bradley has below average pop, just respectable power, nowhere near knockout type power. Casamayor, same thing and both have really good beards. So, hope that Bradley saves the day, comes out aggressive and just wears down Casamayor, otherwise, we are in for a very bad fight. Prediction: Timothy Bradley by wide UD.
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Pimp C · Nov 10, 2011

Magdaleno TKO
Trout TKO
Fury TKO
Pac UD
Bradley UD
Burgos UD
Alvarado UD

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