Two Simple Factors Why Judges Gave Pac the Nod

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  1. AxlRose

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    No bull****, Pac won 7-5 in my cards...:smoke

    Let's have a rematch then :good
     
  2. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quality of punches not quantity. We'll ignore that most people find those (HBO) statistics very suspcious but JMM dictated the pace of the fight; made Pac miss; and continually landed the cleaner eye-catching punches. JMM must have had a homing glove targeted on Pac's body as he repeatedly landed and kept catching Pac with right hands. Pac couldn't land consistant combinations relying mostly one punch at a time - JMM put together plenty of combinations especially the 1-2.
     
  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    if you think most rounds on this fight were not close and could have gone either way then we don't really have anything to talk about.
     
  4. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're right Marquez countered him w/ misses and blocked shots. He landed a few shots though but Pac landed more shots in most rounds.
     
  5. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    "this is what happens when someone gets on top, they expect so much from manny. The ironic thing here is that in the first 2 fights marquez landed more punches and that's why they think he won, now that manny landed more punches they still think marquez won. It's their doulbe-standard and the fact that anything besides a KO is a loss for Manny nowadays."
     
  6. AxlRose

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    Ok, so JMM punched harder than Pac that night? :smoke

    That's where you got it all wrong dude :smoke
     
  7. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hoping Manny took the advice of millions and looked back to entice May into believing he's very beatable, and thus PHONY will be more willing to make the fight.:lol:
     
  8. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't care about stats, I wanted Pac to win, I want him to beat Mayweather (thought I very much doubt that now), and I gave him the first Marquez fight....but when Pac is consistently having their head snapped back, whilst barely landing one clean punch the whole fight I see no way you can score it for him.

    I'm a boxing fan before a Pacquiao fan, I have to be honest and say he lost. Pacquiao was dreadful tonight; no body punches, circling to Marquez right hand, zero infighting skills. His futile headhunting became embarrassing at points.

    Just because I scored the Floyd fight for Castillo how the **** is that contradictory!?!?

    In Floyd-Castillo, Castillo was applying pressure, landing punches and backing Floyd into a corner. Floyd was totally flustered.

    In Pac-Marquez, Pac was walking forward, never finding a home for his big punch and consistently walking into JMM's right hand!! He never backed Marquez into a corner once.

    Roach, Khan and Pac all knew he's lost.....the "fanboys" who are ruining boxing are the ones saying Pac won.

    Credit to Pac, he's taken 3 fights against someone who is quite clearly a stylistic nightmare for him and is a gracious person, but he lost that fight.
     
  9. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you think Pac landed cleaner punches than Marquez??
     
  10. AxlRose

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    You land a clean punch, but your punching power not KD-material...

    Versus one who lands a not-so-clean punch but whenever he grazes your face all your senses come alive like it's doomsday :good
     
  11. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: ******* unaware that boxing is scored by rounds. pac was lucky have won 4 rounds. they dont cover that on pacland i see
     
  12. Quik

    Quik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    WTF, Pac never hurt Marquez in this fight. A fight is not scored on power. If you dont land, you dont win. Thats it.

    You should score a fight on clear, effective punching before everything else. Pac rarely landed a clean punch and JMM took him to school. Again.
     
  13. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He landed the cleaner and better punches. Combined with Marquez controlling the pace of the fight (Ring generalship) and making Pac miss (defense), yes JMM won this fight. Pacquiao is the harder puncher punch-for-punch but he did not hurt JMM enough to win this fight. You have to factor in all criteria when scoring rounds.

    If boxing was only scored on who had the bigger punch I'm sure guys like Tim Bradley, Juan Diaz, Hector Camacho, Jeff Fenech, Paulie Malignaggi etc would all have many more losses on their records as they've faced bigger punchers punch-for-punch. In fact if you don't punch as hard as your opponent why even bother stepping in the ring with them.

    It's effective damage caused by clean blows not simply how hard you hit. What a nonsensical rationale you've got going on.
     
  14. AxlRose

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358521 :good
     
  15. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao never caught Marquez clean once. History has shown that when he does, Marquez legs go. Conversely, Marquez snapped Pac's head back consistently.

    Your argument is moot.