What was Marquez's Trainer thinking?

He's had dodgy decisions in the past and he tells Marquez he is well ahead going into the 12th! What an idiot, he probably lost it for Marquez

 

Did you not hear the scores or are you just stupid? Both judges who gave Pac the nod had him more than one round ahead, so what JMM did in the last round was completely irrelevant in the context of winning or losing the fight.

 

But Marquez did engage with pac in the 12th round, still lost it though.

 

Nacho always does this "your winning" thing, he always thinks "they're winning". Even if "they're winning" "they're not really winning" you get it? lol

 

If Marquez had have won the last round it would have been a draw.

 

On who's card?

 

What?
One judge had it a tie and gave the last round to Pac.
Another judge had it for Pac with 115-113 and gave the last round to Pac.

So it would have been another tie if JMM, and a win if he never said somewhere in the mid rounds.

 

Marquez should have attacked more.

He just sat back and waited to conounter all night long.

He wanted to play it safe. And boring!

 

JMM is notoriously susceptible to knockdowns and especially against Pacquiao. If JMM was to be put on his ass in the final stages of the fight a few on here wouldn't even be arguing he got robbed

 

Once again... HBO commentators brainwashing the average fan.
(Not calling the TS an average fan in anyway... just overall)

Team JMM executed exactly what they wanted, Except for maybe a few more combo's... They did. Nacho & JMM did what they wanted w/Pacquiao last night.

 

For some reason I thought he had it wider than that. Apologies to the OP. atsch

 

crazy nacho for thinking the judges wouldnt eff it up. lol. trowbridge and moretti are good too...confusing as heck.

 

This is a some pure rubbish from HBO, and they tried to shove it down our throat at the end of the fight to somehow justify the result. Marquez was clearly and comfortably ahead anything from 5 to 3 rounds going into the 12th. The only way Manny could have won was with multiple knockdowns, and Nacho gave the right advice to avoid those. This is as much of a straw man as anything.

 

Nacho was saying that like in the 10th round. Marquez even gave away the 11th round IMO.

 

That's exactly correct. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Every time Pac threw a flurry, CLEARLY missing with literally every shot, the commentators oohs & ahed about how he just landed. - then on each replay you'd hear one of them say, kind of quietly, "gee he actually missed that shot."

Those guys are either idiots or they are on the take. - And I don't think they're idiots.