Do you think Lesnar will defeat Mir? If yes, does he have a chance to become HW champ

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    I want to hear from the experts on here what they think the outcome will be. I am thinking of ordering this pay per view. Sylvia and Big Nog (the co-feature on this card) can both be dull although they are undoubtly accomplised and excellent fighters. Will anyone be able to pass guard on such a wide and powerful man? Will Lesnar be able to avoid subs from a good fighter with just his immense power and quickness? Is he as great a wrestler as everyone thinks? Is he in the same class as Fedor only in terms of raw athletic skills? Does Mir have a good chance to win or is he damaged goods set up to make Lesnar look good? Will Lesnar have a bright future in MMA?
     
  2. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    I think he'll win. He has all the physical tools to be the champion, of course. The man is a monster.
     
  3. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Thanks Iron Duke. Lesnar was the last training camp cut of the Minnesota Vikings I believe in 2004 or so. This was after not playing organized football of any kind since high school. He picks up anything athleticallly very fast and is very intelligent from what I've heard. Pat Miletich thinks Lesnar will be unbeatable in about a year. It is just that they were saying the same things about a guy named Mark Kerr less than a decade ago and he flopped. The curiousity factor alone is going to make me order the PPV and watch. It will be intriguing.
     
  4. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    I think mentally, Lesnar is far more stable than Kerr, he's also not a drug addict, which helps anyones career.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Kerr was a top notch sub-wrestler as well though.

    As to the question, yeah I think he can beat Mir, not exactly a big accomplishment, but can he become champ? I honestly don't believe so.
     
  6. dwilson

    dwilson Guest

    He will be good while it lasts and will obviously get extra pushes due to his fame but I can not see him being good enough for a world title. Mir has been brought in to be name and make Lesnar look good. How about Cro cop next?
     
  7. gutto

    gutto Guest

    I think lesnar will win I dont know about beeing champ but **** its going to hurt if he hits you in the mouth
     
  8. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Lesnar will beat Mir but that he'll eventually get subbed by the cream of the crop of bjj. (Mir isn't one of em even though he's very experienced) , anyway , Lesnar is not a freak show , and his wrestling is amazing , so he's got a good chance to beat Mir.

    I say 50/50
     
  9. Donut62

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    I think he can beat Mir, but that is more an indictment of where Mir has gone with his career rather than an endorsement of Lesnar. There is no reason someone with Frank's size and submission skill should lose to a guy in his second MMA fight, regardless of their physical tools. Even if Brock wins, I don't think you can comfortably annoit him the next big thing for these reasons.
     
  10. elixirvtec

    elixirvtec Active Member Full Member

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    After all the upsets in 07 I think anyone in MMA has a chance to beat anyone. As far as being chanpion. I doubt it. If you look at all the current champs they are all rounded fighter. Lesnar can only wrestle. i think he wont get very far.
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    The UFC Hvyweight Division sucks so much **** that its not out of the question.
     
  12. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    That is vindictive of the HW scene in general. If you want to argue, most publications and websites have 7 of the top 10 HW's as UFC fighters (Randy,Fedor and Barnett, being the other 3)
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Whats your top 10 Duke?

    Fedor
    Nog
    Randy
    Sylvia
    Arlovski
    Barnett
    Werdum
    Kongo

    Ugggggh....I don't even know :patsch
     
  14. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    My top ten is: (In no order)

    Sylvia
    Barnett
    Fedor
    Couture
    Gonzaga
    Werdum
    Arlovski
    Nog
    Crocop
    Kongo
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    This is really hard to predict, as far as the rest of Brock's career goes. Judging by the way that Mir has looked recently, I would say that Brock should be able to handle him without too much of a problem based on his wrestling skills, and ground and pound alone. However, we just don't know enough about Brock, and we haven't been able to study him enough to know just where he stands in the MMA game. For all we know, he can't take a shot... or he is clueless on submissions.... but then again, he may have trained his ass off for them, and be a beast in that department.

    He has only had one fight, and that didn't show us anything other than he is willing to do it, and has the physical tools to be a great fighter. We pretty much already knew that from his college wrestling years. Now, his success in MMA is going to come down to what ELSE Brock can do, and how well Brock has developed in the other areas of the fight game, that he is going to have to deal with when all of the cards don't fall the right way for him.