Arum/Top Rank tell Mayweather they will not negotiate with him

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  1. PBA

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  2. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    All of you guys really shouldn't hate on Arum he does his job well, and has done a masterful job of promoting Pacquiao and made millions of dollars. You shouldn't hate him cause he's smart enough to know his fighter would get dismantled (which would mean losing millions of dollars). PLUS IF PACQUIAO WENT TO HIM AND DEMANDED A FLOYD FIGHT HE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT.
     
  3. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I'd want context. People say you can't believe a word Arum says but this is somehow gospel? :rofl

    Did Arum just call Oscar up out of the blue and make the announcement or did Oscar call Top Rank to start negotiations. At this point there supposedly is really nothing left to negotiate. All was agreed to before except the testing.
     
  4. Eastcoast

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    The February talk is just bs by Floyd. The guy generates over $40 mill for his ppv's, were just over 3 months away from that fight date with no opponent even mentioned. After his Ortiz fight, if he didn't go into his next ppv with a credible opponent he would risk doing poor ppv sales.
     
  5. ceebz

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    More he said, she said. Just like when the negotiations never happened, and when they couldn't agree on a date.

    The posturing by these two camps is sickening.
     
  6. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha :D

    Not to sure what to think of this. Arum expressed his interest in pac-Marquez for on may 5th aka the announced date of floods next fight. I think arum try's to beat floyd in ppv buys and demands a 60-40 split for pac vs floyd. However I could be completely wrong and it is most likely that arum knows floyd schools manny to a wide ud
     
  7. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Me too!:lol:
     
  8. PBFred

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    Schaefer said the notification came in an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator who has worked closely with the sides to settle numerous lawsuits and issues in recent years.

    "I am sick and tired of Bob Arum twisting the truth. It's another case of 'yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth,' " Schaefer said, invoking Arum's most famous quote. "The truth of the matter is that we received this afternoon an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who has informed us that Top Rank is pursuing a rematch with Marquez and, therefore, is not interested in immediate talks for a possible Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. This is obviously as clear as it can be that they have no intentions of making a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. Therefore, Floyd Mayweather will have no other choice than to move on and identify and lock in another opponent for his ring return on May 5."


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    Schaefer said the plan was to use Weinstein to help them make the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because he is trusted by both sides and intimately familiar with the problems between the rival promotional companies.

    "Judge Weinstein is respected by both parties and mediated issues between Top Rank and Golden Boy before, so the plan was to see if he could help facilitate such a fight. Floyd's team really wanted to get this fight done," Schaefer said. "If you just sit down with Arum, he can at any time have one of his fits, one of his 'f--- you' attacks, and the likelihood that he would have a 'f--- you' attack in front of a retired judge seemed less likely than if Arum and me would be alone in a room."

    Arum told ESPN.com that he knew nothing about an email and claimed that nobody from his company had communicated anything about making -- or not making -- a possible Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

    But Arum did say, "We are pursuing a fourth fight with Marquez. As far as doing anything definitively, we aren't ready to do anything definitively. When we are ready to make a determination of what we are going to do, we will do it. We are not going to do this in the press. We will do what is in the best interest of ourselves and our client and make a decision when it's time to. If we decide we want to do a rematch with Marquez, there is no reason to sit down with Mayweather. If we want to explore a Mayweather fight, we will sit down with them. But I'm not going to sit down with them just because it's a good show."

    Ellerbe was just as upset as Schaefer was.


    [Pacquiao promoter Bob] Arum told ESPN.com that he knew nothing about an email and claimed that nobody from his company had communicated anything about making -- or not making -- a possible Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

    "In my opinion, you have three cowards -- Bob Arum, (Pacquiao trainer) Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao," Ellerbe told ESPN.com. "Now we all know the truth once and for all why this fight hasn't been made. It should be clear to everyone that they don't care what the fans want, especially when Floyd is ready, willing and able to fight Manny Pacquiao now. Floyd said if this isn't clear, he doesn't know what is.

    "All along we know why the fight isn't being made. This is the perfect opportunity. Both guys just fought. This is the fight the fans want to see, and it's a disgrace that they are not willing to give the fans what they want. In my opinion, there are three reasons why Arum doesn't want the fight. He knows there is no way that Manny Pacquiao can win, it kills his cash cow, and he wants to do in-house fights where he controls both sides. I said all along why this fight hasn't been made to this point. Manny Pacquiao knows, Bob Arum knows and Freddie Roach knows."
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    What are they trying to gain though? It will be a 50/50 split and they said they agreed to the testing. Mayweather is stubborn. He would be more than happy to call their bluff and no one would blame him for the fight not happening.
     
  10. AnotherFan

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    Pac has been involved in too many wars and it begins to show. Floyd would make it worse. As a fan I would rather see Pac retire, or at least face someone he would have a chance to beat, like Marquez.
     
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    "In my opinion, you have three cowards -- Bob Arum, (Pacquiao trainer) Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao," Ellerbe told ESPN.com. "Now we all know the truth once and for all why this fight hasn't been made. It should be clear to everyone that they don't care what the fans want, especially when Floyd is ready, willing and able to fight Manny Pacquiao now. Floyd said if this isn't clear, he doesn't know what is.
     
  13. Signature 8

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    Floyd should sign Marquez to Mayweather Promotions and say **** you arum and **** you Pac your both pussies and tell kahn to fight marquez and say the winner fights me after I fight sergio.

    Floyd would be a boss for that but **** is more complicated than that.

    Clear duck by Team Pac and I hope they get crucified in the media for this ****.
     
  14. PBA

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    Ellerbe speaks sense!

    Pacquiao needs to SPEAK UP!