The Ring Keeps Pac P4P#1

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  1. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Who is surprised

    Who is No. 1 pound for pound?
    That question became particularly difficult to answer after [url]
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    The knee-jerk reaction was this: Pacquiao, No. 1 pound for pound, gave a sub-par performance (for him, at least) and should have to pay a price.
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    [/url] was on Pacquiao’s heels going into Saturday, just waiting for a slip-up. And that’s what happened on Saturday. One could argue that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao atop the rankings, particularly because more people than ever believe he’d beat Pacquiao head to head.
    Another option we considered was to declare the No. 1 position vacant and demand that the principals fight one another to determine the pound-for-pound king, which would’ve been the easiest way to deal with this dilemma.
    In the end, though, we decided to leave the pound-for-pound rankings as is for one simple reason: All but one member of the Ratings Advisory Panel who provided input and the entire RING Editorial Board believed it was the right thing to do.

    Consider:
    • Pacquiao wasn’t fighting a chump. Marquez is the No. 5 fighter in the world pound for pound. And Pacquiao beat him, at least officially.
    • A great fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because another great fighter has his number. We didn’t think less of Muhammad Ali because he had trouble with Ken Norton three times. The same with Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler in their series.
    • A fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because he has an off night, if that’s what it was on Saturday. Sergio Martinez didn’t look great against Darren Barker but no one clamored for him to be demoted.
    • Pacquiao has accomplished more than Mayweather in recent years. The Filipino is 9-0 against big-name opponents since the beginning of 2008; Mayweather is 3-0 in that time.
    • Mayweather isn’t exactly coming off a sterling performance. He looked good against Victor Ortiz for three-plus rounds but scored a knockout when Ortiz wasn’t looking.
    • And you can’t say that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao because he defeated Marquez more easily. That doesn’t take into account styles and strengths. Plus, Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya more easily than Mayweather did.
    All that said, we also feel we should add something here: Pacquiao survives as THE RING’s No. 1 fighter by a hair. Should he stumble again or Mayweather turn in an outstanding performance, a new king probably would be crowned.

    And we still hold out hope that they’ll decide this once and for all by facing one another in the ring.
    One more note: Marquez moved up in weight yet still fought on at least even terms with the No. 1 fighter in the world, which might merit a bump up in the pound-for-pound ratings under certain circumstances. However, we couldn't justify placing him above Pacquiao, Mayweather, Sergio Martinez and Nonito Donaire, who don't deserve to be demoted.
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I`m not suprised at all, the ring is full of biased pricks that have their favourites, I don`t respect them at all.
     
  3. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Ring has been garbage for a while. No one even buys their magazines anyway
     
  4. JMP

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    Pisses me off that JMM wasn't moved above Martinez and Donaire.
     
  5. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    This tells you all you need to know about the bias of the Ring.

    Mayweather KO's Ortiz but you diminish that because "he wasn't looking" but you don't diminish Manny for getting a decision in a fight he obviously lost.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    My rankings
    1.PBF
    2.JMM
    3.Martinez
    4.Pac
    5.Donaire
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Basically they're full of ****.
     
  8. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    P4P should be about who the best fighter in the world is. That's Floyd Mayweather.
     
  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I guess Oscar doesn't influence The Ring Mag as much as people thought he would.
     
  10. errsta

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    Floyd reclaimed the #1 P4P spot the moment he publicly un-retired. The guy never lost it in the ring.
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao should have been #2 behind Mayweather before the fight.
    I have not seen the fight so I can't commit on it.

    If I agree with the result than I'd move Pacquiao to #1. If I think it was a far decision, meaning a close win for Marquez or a draw than I would hold Pacquiao at #2. If I fell Marquez and only Marquez deserved to win, based on compartive results by both Pacquiao and Mayweather at 144 against Marquez. Pacquiao would slip a spot.
     
  12. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Martinez over Pac? Get the hell outta here. Good God. And I'm a big Martinez fan.
     
  13. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It should be Sergio.

    Floyd has beaten one, very young average fighter in the last year and half. JMM just beat Manny.
     
  14. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    ok here we go again:

    -HBO is bias
    -ESPN dont know **** about boxing
    -compubox is not credible
    -RING is full of ****

    I think ESB should be recognized, so many "boxing experts" here just gone wasted!!! tsk tsk tsk
     
  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    had PBF at one after Ortiz cause that was better than Mannys over Shane Mosley

    may leave Floyd due to Mannys struggles