VIDEO: FREDDIE ROACH 'I will never underestimate Marquez again!' Talks 4th fight *NEW

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tomato Can, Nov 15, 2011.


  1. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    didn't roach say manny was over trained?
     
  2. u29236

    u29236 Active Member Full Member

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    No doubt roach and especially ariza were overconfident. They were expecting the slow and fat JMM that fought floyd, and got humbled by a 150lb super in shape JMM. Ariza thought he was the best and got beat by heredia. Roach thought they can apply the same tactics they been using on everyone else. Pac thought he was on top of the world. The entire team got humbled.
    I believe pac did his part to come in great shape, but the entire team failed cause they came in thinking they will destroy him. No sparring partner that are like jmm. It was the saame guys they've been using for years and lianres who's offensive minded. Maybe this is a good thing, and they learn from this.
     
  3. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It will be very interesting to see how the next month plays out... I really want to find out who Pac is going to fight. I really believe that if Juan wants it..... Pac should man up and honor the man who has given him 3 incredible championship fights. But I know that's not the most popular vote... Everyone wants Floyd and I do think that's the fight Pac is going for. The money is just too great to pass up when Floyd seems ready to go.
     
  4. jso416

    jso416 F U Nutthuggers!!! Full Member

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    Roach needs to make up his mind.. First he said it's up to Bob Arum who Manny will fight next n now he says if Mayweather comes to the table they'll fight him.. So which is it Freddie??
     
  5. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    A very honest assessment from Roach in my opinion. Yes he did underestimate Marquez. So did just about everyone based on Marquez last few fights. He admitted that was a mistake and gave a lot of credit to Marquez. What more do you want?

    A whole lot of people honestly feel Manny won this close fight by a couple points. Many of which just aren't complaining as loudly as people who feel JMM was robbed because in a way even a close win was a loss for Manny. Surely you don't think his own Trainer feels otherwise? He is humbled simply because of how confident the whole team was in an EASY blowout before the fight. An opinion largely shared by the entire boxing community before the fight. In addition, Manny was not fighting at his own level and Roach is concerned why.

    Time to move on.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Excellent post. I couldn't agree more.
     
  7. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This
     
  8. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But I thought he said ''I see a little fire on Manny I haven't seen in a long time'' :lol: And this is the best training camp ever... this wont go pass 3 rounds ect..:lol::rofl
     
  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :yep

    what he really knows but wont say outloud is that he has no idea on how emmanuel can beat juan, and that emmanuel anit got the ring iq for it
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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  11. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl roach is overrated
     
  12. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    roach and the rest of team pac are a piece of ****. I watched the fight on primetime and khan stuck his foot in his mouth by saying roach and the rest of them had been sizing marquez up as an opponent for khan since the mayweather fight because they assumed he was finished. Im glad this came to bite them in the arse after all the **** they talked. Manny and his team are bottom feeders plain and simple
     
  13. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lmao child please


    what has team pacquiao been doing from 04-11???
     
  14. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but roach said it was up to manny and arum to make the megafight the other day
     
  15. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Under what conditions should Pac face JMM since you believe they should fight next? Do you believe JMM should get his conditions met for it to happen since you claim Pac should man up and honor JMM, or Pac should still get his way?

    "Now the ball is in my court and I think the [fourth fight] should be in Mexico, under my conditions."

    http://www.bs.com/marquez-ball-my-court-4th-pacquiao-fight-mexico--46048 BScene

    Also this, although reported by examiner so I'm not too sure if he said it or not.

    “Now I am the one who will put forth the conditions. I want to see if it is true that Manny Pacquiao fights for the people. First he has to accept that he lost, the WBO must not accept the decision they gave him, and give him a no-contest,” Marquez told Mexican news outlet Proceso.

    Marquez also noted he would want atleast 10 million dollars for a fourth fight with Manny Pacquiao, and would want the event to be housed in Mexico City’s Estadio Azteca.

    http://www.examiner.com/latino-boxing-in-national/juan-manuel-marquez-sets-conditions-for-a-4th-bout-with-manny-pacquiao

    What makes you think Pac's going after the Floyd fight? What has he done/said since the JMM fight to make you believe that?! :huh