Super Middleweight rankings:

why the **** is bute ahead of ward and froch? you cant be ranked #1 for performing well against an aging johnson. you have to actually beat a top guy.

 

Has Froch beat a top guy?

He lost to Kessler.

He beat AA, who had no business at 168 and is in fact coming back down to 160, after Dirrell exposed his inability to handle movers.

He beat Dirrell in a very close fight where Dirrell although he fought negatively presented Froch with more speed he could handle.

He beat shot Taylor after being KD.

He beat old aging Johnson although getting smashed by straight rights and left hooks in rounds 7 & 8, in a fight where Johnson landed a lot more on his opponent than in the Bute fight.

...again, top guys? :think

 

Rating Bute above Froch is like rating Kell Brook over Pacquiao

 

Peoples SMW rankings are mental.

Ward no.1, until proven otherwise.

Froch no. 2

Will knock him out!

 

Champion: vacant

1. Lucian Bute
2. Carl Froch
3. Andre Ward
4. Mikkel Kessler
5. Glen Johnson
6. Thomas Oosthuizen
7. Robert Stieglitz
8. George Groves
9. Glen Johnson
10. Sakio Bika

When Andre Direll resumes fighting, he will likely replace somebody on that list.

 

pascal.

 

1.ward
2.bute
3.kessler
4.froch
5.stieglitz
6.johnson
7.andrade
8.bika
9.balzsay
10.anthony dirrell

ward and bute are #1 and #2 cause they are undefeated.kessler beat froch so just in front of him.if ward wins 1-4 stay the same.if froch wins he is #1,bute#2,ward#3 and kessler #4

 

Yeah, because Kell Brook has a great chance of beating Pacquiao if they fight.


I don't agree on rating Bute over Froch or Ward right now, but that's because I consider that the ratings are consisting of a % of resume, a % of skills/potential and direct results. Since the two haven't fought, Froch's resume is better than Bute's and the skills deference isn't obviously proven against the others current top SMW(Froch,Ward,Kessler) , I cannot have Bute above Froch , but that comparison above is totally moronic and you should be ashamed of the fart your brain produced.

 

To make a decent comparison, more non-moronic.
Rating Bute above Froch is like rating Mayweather above Pacquiao.
Mayweather is considered more skillful with less impressive resume than the other, not so many atg on his list.
Mayweather is undefeated , Pac is not.
Etc.

 

how can froch be above bute even by resume? he only have a win against johnson from top 10 by everybodys list and he lost to kessler.bute has wins against johnson in a far superior manner than froch and wins against andrade and bika,all rated in top10 by everybody and he is undefeated.so even by haters lists,bute has 3-0 against top 10 and froch has 1-1.just cause haters rate high the winns against abraham,dirrell or taylor that doesn't mean they worth anything,check your facts again,those guys are bums

 

here,let's see this father of all haters list.froch lost to#3 and won against #6 and #7.Bute won against 7 and 9 BUT he is undefeated.and this is by working on a guy who has no clue list,who rate direll and pavlik even tho they have 10cm of dust on their gloves.

 

Froch fought and won against "names" and sometimes he was the underdog, or evenly matched.
Taylor even shot at he was, he still got some nice skills, Froch got lucky but he still worked for the win and got the win, Abraham is not that much above Johnson to brag about but not as much under him either, Dirrell is a great win even as green as he was and with no heart- Froch won that fight in my mind because Dirrell looked like he didn't really wanted that belt -[a draw would've been more fair]. Pascal has hold the Ring belt at 175, Champ of the division. Kessler did beat him, because he doesn't lack in heart as Dirrell, and I tend to believe that Mikkel isn't what he once was, so that takes Froch a notch back. Also winning at such a close margin fights like against Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal might meant that Froch lvl is not much above but just enough. Fighting those tought fight and winning them he earned his higher ranking.
Bute beat Berrio a reigning World Camp , but could be considered as much as a Stieglitz win would be atm, a prime Andrade ranked #3 who took Kessler punches full 12 rounds but didn't cause him as much problems, Ok he was green he has grown but still been in deep waters back then, Bika and Johnson who can't be rated ever above the 5th place in the division. Guys like Magee, Brinkley, Zuniga, Mendy, Miranda who were somewhere at close to the bottom of the top10.
He has the merit of winning impressive against this opposition , more impressive than Froch or Ward did or would have, but that's about it. Until he fights one of the others top4 SMW he can't prove his worth and skill to the world and he is still and unknown quantity. He needs a big win, a big name.

 

If your so gracious, could you pls tell me what makes Stieglitz almost on the same ranking as Bute since his next rated fighter and your are so nice not to put him above Bute ?
What in your crippled mind would make Stieglitz resume and skills equal or better than Bute who is still undefeated and has fought many more "names" than Stieglitz and actually won against all (impressive)?

 

Frochs win over Abraham is as good as Butes win over Johnson if not slightly better
If Abraham has no business at 168 who has? Johnson or Bika certainly not, not to mention bum Magee whos somehow in some top10s on here..
Abraham KTFO'd Taylor, gave Dirrell hell, more than Johnson gave Froch, knocked him down twice, only lost by DQ, tested Wards chin in a fight that was a lot closer than the official cards reflected like Bikas fights with Ward and Bute were also closer than on the official cards..

Dirrell, Johnson, Abraham thats three currently rated fighters +LHW Pascal, and a loss to Kessler.
Johnson, Bika thats two for Bute. so its close imo. undefeated Bute, well if someone considers his Andrade I win legit, he can't get much credit for winning the rematch because he only made Andrade big by his own fail job, Andrade climbed the rankings dispite his loss and then Bute just grounded him again..

 

1: Ward
2: Kessler
3: Froch
4: Bute
5: Stieglitz
6: Sartison
7: Johnson
8: Groves
9: Oosthuizen
10: Balszay

Sartison enters as he's back from injury despite poor comeback. Andre Dirrell still out due to injury/inactivity.

Not much separates the top 4.