Jeff Fenech

lol.

That's very harsh.

I thought he started off pretty good. And motivating is probabily his biggest strength.

 

he had a good stable of fighters at one point

 

Why o why do they keep shooting those poor defenceless houses.

 

Jeff Fenech In Verbal Bar Fight in Sydney today
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Jeff seemed to try the same two tricks with many of his fighters. And that is; sizzle them down till they didn't have a gram of fat or water left in their body for the weigh-in so that by the time they got in the ring they'd be giants compared to their opponents, and he'd have them all as major-pressure fighters.
This was the approach used for Fenech's career and it obviously worked for him. But how someone recovers between the time of a tough weigh-in to the fight doesn't come down to their mental toughness. Some guys can recover incredibly well and others struggle greatly. This has been proven through exercise science and has nothing to do with mental toughness.
When Sakio Bika was at Middleweight I told everyone that as soon as he steps up to SuperMiddleweight he'd be a world champion.
Danny Green clearly see's out rounds better at LightHeavyweight.
Nader Hamden should have campaigned at no lighter than Middleweight. I personally don't think he ever had an exceptional gas tank so getting him to make 69kg's was craziness!!!
I remember Nedal Hussein saying before his fight with Oscar Larios that after the fight he'd have to move up a division because his health had to come first. Meaning he felt it was unhealthy for him to have to make his current weight. Meaning he entered the ring as an unhealthy and already half beaten fighter.
I was saying this more than ten years ago and people would grill me for it. Now it seems many believe I was right.
He just seemed to believe so strongly about this approach for his fighters that even when it didn't work for them, he'd still wouldn't lose faith in it.
Jeff's achieved more than me and 99.9% of all people could ever achieve in boxing so I'm just a fan here sharing my belief. But Green felt he made the right decision changing camps, Hamden felt the same and Sakio felt the same.

 

Remember years ago , being asked how would Fenech go with Ellis , and my answer was , Lesters too big for him and will knock him out .

I said then and still say it Fenech was not a great boxer , he just had this uncanny amazing ability to drop weight and RETAIN strength , but has soon has he came up in weight what happenned , he got knocked the fack out .

I would pay to be there when he goes off on one of his bully boy rantings and actually meets a bouncer who decides fack him and gives him a serve ,, Fenech may have been a great fighter , but that was'nt a heavyweight fighter , fack above featherweiht he got ko'ed , why the **** he thinks he can handle all and sudry has got me ****ed , because the minuite a young 6'2" 17 stone bouncrr lands one on him he will go down , like he did with Grove , Nelson , and holiday .

Failing that a good choke hold and squeeze the fackers throat , followed by , maybee a full nelson , and a figure 4 leglock , after that , pick him up and do the backbreaker , and top it off with the sleeper hold ,

seriosly when is this guy gonna get off his ego trip , and quit with the bully boy hardman shite , the sooner some big ex rugby player working has a doorman , decides to stand up to him and give him a serve the better ,, and i would pay to watch it .

 

says he wasn't intoxicated, the **** is always drinking and cant help himself, he should know better.

 

None of that is really relevant when your fighting tomato can after tomato can and then step it up and cant handle the level of opposition because your to used to fighting stiffs. it happen to pretty much all of fenechs former fighters.

Green demolished beyer but then couldnt do it a second time when the germans worked him out.

Hamdan got beat by Sam soliman ffs, then everyone else he stepped it up against. Otis grant, Abraham, Bozic, Mundine etc. When Mundine beat him it was at Super Middle. Soliman beat him at Middleweight, Abraham beat him at Middleweight, Otis Grant beat him at super middleweight etc.

Nedal Hussein was fighting nothing but bums and then they step him up for a fight against pacman , which gave Nedal his first loss. His diet of bums was pretty bad, evident of his last loss by KO against a guy who was 7-0

 

My point is that all the fighters I mentioned that left Fenech all found it necessary to leave him and all seemed to make great improvements.
If Green, at SuperMiddle, couldn't blast his opponent out of the ring within the first six rounds they were in with a shot. I can understand having him at SuperMiddle because of the big money fight with Mundine, and the quality of title-holders were a lot less than at LightHeavy, but for no other reason should he have been campaigning at SuperMiddle.
Hamden's problem was that he wasn't an awesome athlete like Mundine or Soliman. But he was as tough as anyone else you could name. I believe he would have achieved a lot more in his career if he was handled better earlier on. From what I heard he might have been screwed over by the judges and ref against Bozic (just what I heard) and I don't believe there was anything to be ashamed about in his performance against Abraham.
I agree Nedal got to comfortable fighting nobodies. He was a good chance against Larios but he was to used to waiting for his opponents to make a mistake to capitalize on rather than having to create the opportunites. In his loss against Scott Harrison he atleast gave a decent effort and made a fight out of it.

 

I was thinking exactly the same thing. He is what 5'7 and around 70 to 75kg with brittle hands. Doesn't make for the best recipe in a street fight fighting against someone who like you said is 6'2 and 17 stone and is going to rip your arms off once he gets a hold of you.

 

Jeff trains no one. Just sticks his head in where he thinks there is a dollar, or some screen time... Has burned or offended everyone, but is tolerated because of his achievements as a former world chump....

 

I think they all eventually left him because they got sick of sucking upto his ass in order to get looked after fight wise. As someone pointed out already, fenech rarely even did anything with his boys, it was hussein who was the pad man with fenech usually just barking orders. Most of the guys just wanted exposure and with Fenech you got just that, exposure and opportunity, not to mention a tone of easy fights that made you look good on TV/Jeff Fenech fight nights.

I was told the same thing about bozic but ive honestly never seen the fight, Abraham wasnt to bad of a fight but imo he could have done much better, he got hit way to much, Otis Grant fight was a wooping and a half and really showed that Hamdan just isnt skillful enough to be in there with the top brass. One stage Hamdan was ranked #1 in DLH division and was supposed to be DLH mandatory, rumor had it that DLH was avoiding hamdan at the time but we will really never know as the fight never happen, imo Hamdan wouldn't have stood a chance against someone like DLH but he would have earned some good coin from that fight.

 

DeLaHoya would have been avoiding him because Hamden didn't have a single recognised name on his record. DeLaHoya was used to making millions fighting the likes of Trinidad and Whitaker so why would he have given Hamden a shot at the title when there would have been no good return in it for him.
This is what I mean when I say he could have achieved a lot more. He would have comfortably beaten the likes of Ricky Thornberry and most of the top fighters on the national scene from JuniorMiddle to LightHeavy so that's what he should have been doing. Then he would have gotten interest earlier in his career and might have got the Calzaghe shot that Thornberry got.
But Fenech new that as soon as you've got the IBF Pan Pacific title that all you need to do is fight twenty bumbs in a row and you'll be given the mandatory title shot. Say what you want about Soliman but atleast he's been willing to travel and go hunting for big fights.

 

Ol Jeff hey some things never change...........remember when he defended his WBC Bantam strap against the 65 yr ol green grocer in his store.......the grocer wasn't even ranked at the time.