Floyd's defense for straight lefts

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How did those fights turn out. Everyone even the great defensive boxers, Mayweather included gets hit.
     
  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    I agree with all of this, Im not saying you cant use the fight, but when people talk about it they exaggerate the trouble floyd had with zab, he lost a few rounds from being lazy and staying on the outside boxing with zab where zab was being super cautious and winning the rounds because he was beating floyd to the punch with a faster jab. Floyd made an adjustment (he closed the distance and put pressure on zab) and after that zab didnt win a single round.

    I think floyd could be outboxed on the outside by someone like winky or forrest with a good jab and reach. Floyd lost some rounds to DLH as well but pac doesnt fit this pattern.

    I never get people saying floyd has problems with southpaws, when he is actually better than average against them. He has fought a pretty lot of them throughout his career, more than most fighters ever face, so he has lots of practice. He also has an excellent lead right hand, doesnt need to use the jab, has good footwork to be where he wants to be. He has alternatives to the shoulder roll for defense but I also think that is misleading when people say it cant be used against a southpaw because Morales actually used the shoulder roll to slip some of Pac's shots.
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Yeah he got some in and then floyd adjusted and it didnt happen anymore. Mosley had the perfect setup for floyd two, landed the combination twice and then later that round tried it a 3rd time but floyd blocked it and swept the rest of the rounds of the fight.

    Its not like Pac isnt ever going to land the left the entire fight but I dont think he will land it consistently. Floyd will adjust and pac wont be able to keep up.
     
  4. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He does have trouble with southpaws fool, everybody does. Thats why he got rocked by Corley and Judah and sent back on his heels against Ortiz. How often do you see that happening to Floyd against Orthodox fighters? No ones saying all southpaws beat him or he's easy against southpaws, but he's clearly more hittable and less invincible looking against lefties. Everyone sees it, no need to deny it. Your just in denial fanboy, let it go.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Mosley hurt Floyd more than anyone ever will

    Oscar won more rounds against Floyd than any southpaw Floyd will ever fight

    Castillo won 5-6 rounds

    none used the southpaw stance

    you fail
     
  6. thawk888

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    Ugh, :patsch
     
  7. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This whole thread fails.
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    :deal These idiots don't understand that Floyd has only lost 3 maybe 4 rounds combined in 7 or 8 fights against Southpaws. That right there proves my point in that he doesn't struggle against them. :good
     
  9. Manjanek

    Manjanek ESB Double Whopper Full Member

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    Zabs straight is nothing to laugh at- especially when he wasn't at his current level of shot-edness. His straight has always been a feared punch in his up-and-comance. It was the fastest straight in boxing at the time even- Knocked its fair share of opponents out or down for sure! Manny has NOTHING like the speed of prime zab-
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    a review of 2011

    Mayweather schools then stops a young and priming southpaw

    emmanuel gets beat the **** up by a 40'ing counterpuncher well beyond his comfortable weight class
     
  11. MrGlass

    MrGlass Active Member Full Member

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    Zab Judah has never stopped anyone elite in his career.

    Let's take a look at his big fights.

    Zab Judah has lost to, Clottey, Khan, Cotto, Tsyzu, Matthysse, Mayweather and Baldomir.
     
  12. boxinger

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    so if Zab Judah can do that to Floyd and actually land some straight lefts on Floyd

    imagine someone like Pac :happy

    Floyd will be in a big hurt all night
     
  13. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Anyways kid. That has nothing to do with rather or not Floyd struggles with Southpaws. Manny struggled with a 77yrold:rofl Marquez a few weeks ago and lost in the eyes of damn near every boxer except his brother Bobby. Cramps, sore feet, over trained, didn't get to eat, Jinkee slapped him and politics were all excuses.

    Floyd= undefeated against all Southpaw opponents faced and lost 3 to 4 rounds combined. Get over it.:lol:
     
  14. Toopretty

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    :lol: Even when they troll. Floyd still looks good.
     
  15. boxinger

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    but he has only fought weak southpaws,

    Manny is different